ms. pierson exchanged text messages with another rally organizers about why people like mr.ander and mr. jones were being suggested as speakers at the president's rally on january 6th. her explanation was, potus. and she remarks that the president likes the crazies. the committee asked ms. pierson about these messages and this is what she said. >> when you said he likes the crazies, were you talking about president trump? >> yes, i was talking about president trump. he loved people who viciously defended him in public. >> but consistent in terms of support by these people, at least with what the president likes from what you could tell? >> yes, the people that would be very, very vicious in publicly defending him. >> as someone who works in the trump white house, i wonder what you made of that notion that the former president likes the crazies. >> it's true, and it's a sad thing where learned very quickly about donald trump, which is so long as you will viciously defend him, regardless of the facts that you state, if they're true or not, regardless of, you know, associations

ms. pierson replied it wasn't the rhetoric mr. parscale said, yes, it was. >> these are a big deal. we're talking about a hard core trump loyalist who played a significant role in trump's rise blaming trump's rhetoric for january 6th death. but now? josh dossier reporting that parscale called trump and his sources say parscale is expected to continue working for trump. in trump world it does make sense because trump isn't the leader of the republican party but, rather, the leader of a cult, like a political -- people like parscale are cult followers. he tweeted exactly one month later a message addressed directly to trump saying, quote, if they only impeached you twice, you need to run again because to change the system you have to kick it in the arse. i would love to be the only president to be impeached three times because history remembers those that didn't confirm. i'm in. are you? the only thing he left out was sir. parscale's digital firm accepted $150,000 in payments from trump's political operation after that tweet. because along with the cult it's also a grift. meanwhile, t

ms. pierson replied, it wasn't the rhetoric. mr.arscale said, katrina, yes, it was. >> the january 6th committee revealed those stunning text messages to the american public, for the first time, between trump ally brad parscale and katrina pierson. for more, let's get straight to mark leibovich, staff writer at the atlantic. he is the author of the new must read summer book, thank you for your servitude: donald trump's washington and the price of submission. mark, i'm so glad you are here. just before the show, you just seemed concerned, i was previously looking for some reporting. josh dawsey of the washington post reported that brad parscale, after those texts were publicized, he called donald trump. after those text that clearly show brad parscale blaming trump's rhetoric's for people dying. according to a few people, brad parscale still thinks he's gonna work for trump. can you explain to me how this loyalty, how these relationships work? because last i checked, brad parscale is a really smart digital media guy. he can make a wh

ms. pierson replied, it wasn't the rhetoric. mr. parscale said, katrina, yes, it was. thank you, mr.rs who has been charged with seditious conspiracy in relation to the capitol attack. mr. van tatenhove broke with the oath keepers and has since spoken out forcefully against the violent group. mr. hairs is a former supporter of president trump. he answered the president's call to come to washington, d.c. on january 6th. he marched to the capitol on the president's orders, he pleaded guilty last month to disorderly and disruptive conduct at the capitol. mr. ayers who no longer supports president trump came forward voluntarily to share his story as a warning. i will now swear in our witnesses, the witnesses will please stand and raise their right hand. do you swear or affirm on the penalty of perjury that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing butt t the truth so help you god. thank you, you may be seated. let the record reflect that the witnesses answered in the affirmative. i recognize myself for questions. today we've discussed how president tru

ms. orders. katrina pierson, one of the organizers of january 6th rally.campaign spokeswoman for president trump grew increasingly apprehensive after learning multiple activists had been proposed as speakers for the january 6th rally. these included some of the people we discussed earlier in this hearing. roger stone, a long time outside advisor to president trump. alex jones, the founder of the conspiracy theory website info or's. ali alexander, an activist known for his violent political rhetoric. on december 30th, miss pearson exchanged text messages with another key rally organizer about white people and mr. alexander and mr. jones were being suggested speakers as the presidents rally on january 6th. miss pierson's explanation was, potus, and she remarks that the president likes the crazies. the committee asked miss pearson about these messages, and this is what she said. >> so when you say that he likes the crazies, were you talking about president trump? >> yes. i was talking about president trump. he loved people who viciously defended him in public