ms. poryes? >> it's hard for me to say something. >> quell, that's what we >> well, that's what we wanted to hear. is there anybody from -- commissioner? >> as a neighborhood representative it's important for me that everybody who comes here does their due diligence in doing community outreach. so i'm really kind of concerned that you haven't done that, and it might be hard for me to support this particular application at this time because you haven't done that. although i really support you as a business owner. i just want to ask the staff, is it mandatory requirement to do a community outreach? >> so a notice is required to be posted. that's what the letter of the law says. and obviously when we meet with people we let them know that they should be prepared to go beyond that, because you just never know who's going to -- for at least the self-interest reason of never knowing who's going to come out of the woodwork. as we all know, somebody might come and speak against this application who lives