ms. pressley: i grew up in a family that was very politically : i grewd -- ms. abrams up in a family that was very politically motivated. we were working poor, and i grew for my system that pay parents to go to college and also kept them from being able to achieve things that they should have been able to be achieving. my parents were very involved in the community. found them deeply inefficient. inefficient. for me, the conversation was how you maximize this effort, and i actually started out wanting to be a bureaucrat, not to be in politics. i was a lawyer for politicians. the more i did that job, the more i realized you needed someone who actually worked for government to run for office. the nexus of politics and policy required that you know how policy works. too often, people who are in successive offices, who unlike has neverke ayanna had to do the work, or in my case, understanding that is not the end of the story but the beginning. >> but the idea you have to put and have experience to get to the highest office in the land -- that is not particularly inv