ms. quinn. >> madam chairman rank you membership haskell and committee members thank you for the honor of speaking to you today about the terrible problem of elder abuse. i'm cap linkline director of the national adult protective services association. a membership organization which helped found the justice coalition with a seal funding. we created the advisory board on elder financial exploitation on which i'm proud to say philip marshall served. elder abuse is a huge expensive deadly problem but one that is largely invisible. one in 10 older persons which is about 5 million people is maltreated twice the number combined number of child abuse and domestic violence victims. it kills. victims are three times more likely to die the non-of these cohorts. it's expensive costing individuals their families financial institutions and taxpayers billions of dollars annually. over 90% of reported elder abuses abuse is committed by the victims on family members especially their adult children and finally

thank you, madam chair. >> ms. quinn did you want to add to that? >> well, just that having social security numbers readily available is clearly opens a huge door for scams of all kinds. so we don't -- aps deals mostly with family abuse and family exploitation. so we don't deal directly with medicare fraud. just as a citizen it seems obvious that leads to problems. >> the reason for my question. i think there's a variety of areas that we probably need to find ways to free up resources to make progress here. so you hear about this one and try to get some sense in an area of scarce resources. does it rise to that top priority or somewhere in between in the face of all thing that is we should probably be considering trying to find a way to fun. thank you. >> thank you. senator casey. >> madam chair thank you so much. congratulations on your chairmanship. and ranking member mccaskle the same as well. and i'm glad you focused on this topic for what i guess is the first hearing and we are grateful for that. i know that many of us we are in and out with vo

ms. quinnadam chairman rank you membership haskell and committee members thank you for the honor of speaking to you today about the terrible problem of elder abuse. i'm cap linkline director of the national adult protective services association. a membership organization which helped found the justice coalition with a seal funding. we created the advisory board on elder financial exploitation on which i'm proud to say philip marshall served. elder abuse is a huge expensive deadly problem but one that is largely invisible. one in 10 older persons which is about 5 million people is maltreated, twice the number combined number of child abuse and domestic violence victims. it kills. victims are three times more likely to die the non-of these cohorts. it's expensive costing individuals their families financial institutions and taxpayers billions of dollars annually. over 90% of reported elder abuses abuse is committed by the victims on family members especially their adult children and finally finan

ms. quinn. madam chairman, ranking member and other committee members, thank you for allowing me to speak be this. 'represent asp tlrk r and is created the financial advisory board on exploitation. elder abuse is a huge expensive doedly problem. the people are treated, twice the number the combine, twice. victims victims and it is expensive costing tax payers, institutions billions of dollars anyway. it often cooccurred with physical and emotional abuse. con con con. we have any serious attention really begun to be paid and resulted in significant reductions in the incidence rates of both problems. >> ms. quinn. pardon me for interrupting. there are foreminutes left in the vote and as my colleagues know, i've never missed one in more than 18 years so i am going to excuse myself to vote. senator, have you voted? and why don't we tack a take a break but we will resume when i return. thank you. >>> thank you for your comments. would you like to continue? >> i was but i think i only recently thanks

. >> ms. quinn? >> i agree. and i would just add, as i said, that part of the reporting should be providing aps with the records, client records. aps cannot prove abuse if they can't see the records. and a lot of cases go unsubstantiated. the money continues to drain away. thank you. >> thank you. well, i will say just by way of full disclosure, my own state of connecticut doesn't have this requirement. the chairwoman's state of maine doesn't have it. my colleague tim kane state of virginia has no mandate. and the same is true of senator mccaskill's state. so we have four states where this kind of requirement isn't attributable to them. i don't mean in any way to cast aspersions on them. but there is a lot of potential here for making a difference by mandating reporting. not just permissively giving them the cover, in the sense, the relief from any liability, but making it their burden. legal burden. thank you. >> thank you very much. i want to thank all of our witnesses for being here today. you can see by the