ms. rice: look we have made june 30 a serious deadline and target. we are trying to get this done by then. however if you look at what happened the last few hours, and we did the interim agreement and in april when we had the agreement, the framework agreement that was signed its switzerland, it ran a few days over. so i don't think anybody should anticipate that that could not happen again. john: there is a lot of pressure on you guys to get a better deal. if congress were to say, we will not initiate new sanctions if we go past the deadline, with or not be a case for extending the deadline and try to get a better deal? ms. rice: the only deal we are going to get is a good deal. if we do not get a good deal there is not going to be a deal. and we have been very clear if we are able to get the deal implemented and finalized that meets the same parameters we are - -that were agreed in april, it will be a good deal. it will cut off all of iran's pathways to a bomb. it will ensure that we are abl

john katko: thank you, ms. rice. i know at least the chairman of the homeland security full committee, mr. mccaul plans on coming here, making a statement. when he comes, we will give... -- give him an opportunity to do so. i will extend the same courtesy to mr. thompson if he shows up. with respect to other members of the committee, i want to remind you that opening statements may be submitted for the record. we are pleased to have several distinguished witnesses before us today. let me remind the witnesses that their entire written statements will appear in our record. somebody has -- well familiar to this committee and to homeland security as a whole is mr. roth. welcome back and thank you for your continuing good work, sir. ms. -- ms. fitzmaurice from the homeland security committee -- or -- of tsa, excuse me, of tsa, thank you for being here. and, ms. grover, thank you for being here, as well. i'd like to hear from mr. roth with respect to his opening statement. john roth: chairman katko, ranking member rice and

ms. rice: i will try to tell you in plain english. the case was initially brought by the inclusive community project, a nonprofit fair housing organization based in texas, doing work in texas. the mission of inclusive community project is to try to undo centuries long, systemic residential segregation. perpetuated by the federal government and perpetuated by private actors. that is their goal. one of the ways they do that is to help place persons of color in communities where their race is not predominant. it does so by using and taking advantage of a voucher program offered under the tax credits the low income housing tax credit program, which is administered at the federal level by the treasury. but the treasury leaves it up to each individual state to come up with its own formula for how the tax credit will be apportioned. the state of texas used a formula for placing the tax credit housing development in a way that icp argued perpetuated racial segregation. in fact, they showed evidence in court that 92% of the low income housing

ms. howard: no, sir. mr. rice: ok. so you would deny that there has been any type of retaliation, audits, that type of thing from the irs because of people so-called scrutinizing. ms. howard: the way foia requests come in logged into a system and the folks that work the foia requests have access to the system and rest of the irs has no need for access -- mr. rice: that's not my question. my question is has the iirs participated? ms. howard: i have no direct knowledge of audit side of the house. that's not my area of expertise. mr. rice: but you have knowledge of foia side of things. and you're denying there would be any such retaliation. ms. howard: i have not shared any information with anybody that would be in a position to retaliate. mr. rice: ok. let me go further to a comment you said made a little bit earlier with the chairman regarding lois lerner, are you saying and i just want to clarify your testimony here today, are you saying there was no special treatment that was given to her for protection in spite of fac

i will yield my time the ranking member ms. rice. >> ms. grover you mentioned the tsa is not qualified with the law enforcement agency so we have to deal with that change. ms. fitzmaurice, one of the first things you said in the testimony is the vetting process by the tsa has been found to be effective whether that is mr. roth's finding or your finding, and i have to tell you just sitting here, how is it possible that anyone can come to that conclusion when we are talking about all of these deficiencies? >> i understand that. and i think -- let me provide context for that comment. the inspector general in part of his report did say they found the vetting process to be general general generally effective. the department sponsored a review of dhs' vetting programs and we participated in that and the review of that found that the tsa system was one of the best performing and effective systems that dhs has in the vetting enterprise. i think one of the key things we have to keep in mind and part of watt we are talking about today is the informat

ms. rice thinking about your son and just hoping he grows up to be 101 or 102 years old and has a great life. ok. one of the issues we always wrestle here with, is it possible to have cleaner air cleaner water and a stronger economy? i go back to -- i used to be governor and for much of my life, retired navy captain. for most of my life after the navy i really focus on job creation, job preservation, what do we do to foster a nurturing environment for job preservation? you go back to the -- a week in january 2009. actually the week that barack obama and joe biden were sworn into office and our country we lost that week 628,000 people filed for unemployment insurance. think about that. one week. january 2009. 628,000 people file for unemployment insurance. and the previous six months, the last six months, 2008, we lost 206,000 jobs, in 2009, we lost another 2.5 million jobs, 5 million jobs literally in a 12-month period of time. since 2009, actually since 2010, we have adopted regulations new m

but i never really wanted to go into anything involving photography or ms. ricet --- or art at all. charlie: are you and your brother and sister different in terms of how you view all this? virginia: i do not think so. i think we are all incredibly proud of this body of work and proud of what mom has achieved. but it is also something we feel we have achieved. we have been there through so much of it. sally: it is collaborative. virginia: every body of work is collaborative. we have gone through choosing which pictures will be in the show. we have gone to the openings. charlie: even if they were pictures of landscapes? virginia: i do not know how much of a say we got. we would give our opinions. she did not raise a shy children. sally: i am not so sure about that. i do listen to you. virginia: we want to get -- we will not get final veto. charlie: this made her famous and you to a degree. did it have when you look back at it, and impact on you? virginia: i think it did. i think it did. it is hard to say because i was quite young when the book came out in 1992. 7

ms. rice: i want to dig in a little bit deeper on this sort of plaintext of the language issue. and, and alito focusing in the fair housing case on the fact that no, you just look at the plaintext of the law as it was written in 1968 and if the plaintext as it was written in 1968 did not mean to include disparate impact you cannot include disparate impact. in opposition to that, justice scalia went through a very, very long discussion on the fact that you have to look at the law holistically. you have to look at the law and all of its elements when you are trying to determine whether or not there was statutory intent for whatever the question is. and i think that is very important during back to the point that ann made earlier because in my mind if scalia votes against disparate impact he is going against the president that he has already set forth, the belief that he has already set forth. that really does raise for me the pretextual issue michelle but you were talking about, what is your pur

ms. miss rice. you, ms. rice. at least the chairman of the homeland security full community plans on coming here and making a statement. he is held up another hearing. hearing. i extend the same courtesy to mr. thompson if he shows up. i i must remind you that opening statements may be submitted for the record. we are pleased to have several distinguished witnesses before us today. the witnesses entire written statement will appear in the record. as someone who is well familiar with this committee welcome back and thank you for your continuing good work. thank you for being here. i would like to hear from mr. roth. >> chairman, ranking member, members, members of the subcommittee, thank you for inviting me here today. federal regulations federal regulations require individuals who work in secure areas undergo background checks. required to perform these checks before granting individuals bet is that allow them on escorted access to secure areas. each check includes a security threat assessment including a terroris

ms. rice, thinking about your son and just hoping he grows up to be 101 or 102 years old and has a great life. okay. one of the issues we always wrestle here with, is it possible to have cleaner air, cleaner water and a stronger economy? i go back to -- i used to be governor and for much of my life, retired navy captain. for most of my life after the navy i really focus on job creation, job preservation, what do we do to foster a nurturing environment for job preservation? you go back to the -- a week in january 2009. actually the week that barack obama and joe biden were sworn into office and our country we lost that week 628,000 people filed for unemployment insurance. think about that. one week. january 2009. 628,000 people file for unemployment insurance. and the previous six months, the last six months, 2008, we lost 206,000 jobs, in 2009, we lost another 2.5 million jobs, 5 million jobs literally in a 12-month period of time. since 2009, actually since 2010, we have adopted regulations n

ms. rice you're recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i feel like i missed something here. i'm just trying to figure out why, maybe mr. murray you can answer this question. why is there such a reluctance to apply f.a.r. regulations when you're talking about non-va care, if you can give that answer suck sincely, because i have a lot of other questions. >> i don't sense a reluctance at this leadership level. all leadership levels i see. pc3, choice, provider agreements seem to be the preferred approach for providing care to the community. that, and if you want to delve into this, i think that chief acquisition officer, the head of contracting activity for the health administration might have some sense for why this is true or could be true in the field. >> one of the things that we try to address and we try to do it with the legislation request that came in was to recognize that there are some vendors that may shy away from doing business with the government. we're not known as being the most streamlined and most easiesteast easiest to dea

. >> ms. rice? >> as a democrat i would like to welcome my former colleague former da dan donovan. great too you here and looking forward to working with you. thank you, mr. chairman. >> anybody else like to say hi? >> on a more serious topic, yesterday in boston reports are emerging that a man was killed by federal law enforcement officers after lunging at them with a knife. he was being investigated by the boston joint terrorism task force after communicating with and spreading isis propaganda online. non-associates of the man are being arrested as we speak. these cases are a reminder of the dangers posed by individuals radicalized by social media. elton simpson in garland, fired off tweets declaring loyalty to the islamic state and urged others to do the same. since then texas attack the decision to terrorize the prophet mohammed cartoon contest had signaled the event as a target. simpson told followers to follow a 20-year-old british foreign fighter embedded with isis in syria, and one of the group's top recruiters who has been linked to the sent com attack earlier this year. h

. >> ms. rice in new york. >> distress from the operators comes from the fact they know they don't have support from cnn giving callers the help they need. i'd like to take a minute to recognize the work done in my home state that covers the bronx and manhattan. they specifically reject the prescribed first come i diagnosed later treatment facility that is all too with doctored by the va. they have taken what should be a revolutionary approach. i understand that.there's when a patient comes and present the real pain. that's the first round of reaction. using alternatives acupuncture and exercises to relieve pain. what we've seen is veterans who undergo treatments without the harmful effects of addictive narcotics. the va's outstanding approach should become the norm at all va facilities nationwide. my question has to do is what is the version to alternative forms of treatment like meditation acupuncture and exercise? >> first of all, share your enthusiasm for what vision three is doing and i've spo

ms. brown. mr. rice, you're recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. ms. feinberg, he may not a been around when all this started but why is the need to create this new system? it seems to me there are so many systems that are similar to those that would be incredibly cheaper and quicker to institute. why did we settle on creating this entire new system? >> i think ptc is actually an overlay of some other systems but if you're referring to some of the technologies we talked about in this committee previously, it's basically a stepping onto that, but it would assist in taking human factors off the table. is one of the most important technologies that we played can be implemented for rail safety. >> mr. kerwin, i'll switch over to you because you know more about the technical aspects. you're a project manager speak with yes sir. >> i know there are gps systems after the two combined for a thousand dollars that will control the motion of a vehicle, right? stop it, started and all that kind of thing. >> and tell you where you're at but is forced into vehicle -

ms. barr. what emails are you processing for secretary powell and secretary rice? you said you're processing emails. ms. barr: for clinton. mr. cummings: but what emails are you processing for secretary powell? and listen to me. secretary powell any? ms. barr: no. mr. cummings: are you processing for any for secretary rice? ms. barr: no. mr. cummings: all right. thank you. i yield back. mr. chaffetz: i yield to the gentlewoman from the district of columbia for five minutes. ms. norton: i understand, ms. barr, while we have the secretary clinton's, we don't have anything from secretary powell because he didn't save his, is that right? ms. barr: yes, ma'am. nor minority thank you. now, -- ms. norton: thank you. now when we get a chronic problem that keeps coming back, we often set up an officer or another department or another part of government to help us out. so i noticed -- noticed, indeed, in fact, in h.r. 653 there's the creation of a chief foia officer counsel. that would be run jointly by the d.o.j.'s office of information policy and the office of government in

ms. abarr last fall the state department at former secretary rice along with other secretaries for information about official e-mails on their personal accounts, is that right? ms. bar former secretaryr: rice did not respond. she had a representative do that. that is what said in the report sent to the national archives on this issue. you know who secretary rice's representative is? ms. barr: i do not konw. -- know. >> the former representative claims she did not lose her personal e-mail account for official business. do you know what his assertion was based on? do you have any idea? ms. barr: just what was told us i do not have personal knowledge of what was said. mr. cummings: ok, so you do not know whether she told him that or he review documents -- you do not know? ms. barr: that is correct. mr. cummings: did he take her word? is that your testimony? ms. barr: yes. mr. cummings: when dozens of white house officials were using private e-mail accounts, we work with their attorneys to make sure they were recovering official e-mails and reducing them. we did not suggest subpoenaing their serve

rice has not disclosed whether she used a personal e-mail account for official business. she has not disclosed whether she used a private e-mail account for official business and ms. barr, can you confirm or deny? do you know either way on that question? it's a yes or no. i have to hurry, yes or no? do you know? >> secretary rice told us that she did not use personal e-mail for official business. >> well, i'm going to invite my dear friend from south carolina who i know is looking into the question of e-mails of secretaries of state to really devil delve into whether secretary condoleezza rice used private e-mail a accounts for personal business. >> recognize the gentleman from south carolina. >> ms. barr you previously testified that the former secretaries e-mail arrangement with herself was not acceptable. those were the words you used, not acceptable, what made it not acceptable to you? >> i thought that i know that in my oral statement today i was talking about it. i think in my former testimony that was being asked the if i thought in general it was okay to use, if any employee would use a private e-mail account. >> in response to the a question when you testi

rice has not disclosed whether she used a personal e-mail account for official business. she has not disclosed whether she used a private e-mail account for official business and ms. barr, can you confirm or deny? do you know either way on that question? it's a yes or no. i have to hurry, yes or no? do you know? >> secretary rice told us that she did not use personal e-mail for official business. >> well, i'm going to invite my dear friend from south carolina who i know is looking into the question of e-mails of secretaries of state to really delve into whether secretary condoleezza rice used private e-mail accounts for personal business. with that, i yield back. >> recognize the gentleman from south carolina. mr. gowdy. >> ms. barr, you previously testified that the former secretaries e-mail arrangement with herself was not acceptable. those were the words you used, not acceptable, what made it not acceptable to you? >> i thought that i know that in my oral statement today i was talking about it. our backlogs are not acceptable. but i think in my former testimony that was being asked if i thought in general it was okay to use -- if any employee would use a private

rice has not disclosed whether she used a personal e-mail account for official business. she has not disclosed whether she used a private e-mail account for official business and ms. barr, can you confirm or deny? do you know either way on that question? it's a yes or no. i have to hurry, yes or no? do you know? >> secretary rice told us that she did not use personal e-mail for official business. >> well, i'm going to invite my dear friend from south carolina who i know is looking into the question of e-mails of secretaries of state to really devil delve into whether secretary condoleezza rice used private e-mail a accounts for personal business. >> recognize the gentleman from south carolina. >> ms. barr you previously testified that the former secretaries e-mail arrangement with herself was not acceptable. those were the words you used, not acceptable, what made it not acceptable to you? >> i thought that i know that in my oral statement today i was talking about it. i think in my former testimony that was being asked the if i thought in general it was okay to use, if any employee would use a private e-mail account. >> in response to the a question when you testi

ms. barr, let's look at former secretary rice. last fall, the state department asked her along with other secretaries for information about official e-mails on their personal accounts, is that right? >> yes, sir. >> and former secretary rice did not respond to the department herself in response to your letter last fall. she had a representative do that, that's what it says in the state department's report sent to the national archives on this issue. do you know who secretary rice's representative is? >> no, not offhand, sir. >> do you know if it's an attorney? >> i assume so, yes. >> okay. according to the report the department sent to the archives former secretary rice's representative claimed she did not use her personal e-mail account for official business. do you know what his assertion was based on? do you have any idea? >> personally, just what was told to us. i don't have personal knowledge of what was said. >> okay. and so you don't know whether she told him that or he reviewed the documents, you don't know? >> that is tru

ms. bar, as you stated today, can you tell us with certainly whether secretary rice even had an official state department e-mail account? >> yes it is my understanding that she had an official state department request. >> acounseldown. >> account sorry. i would also like to say that e maims are not the only way we capture records, we have cables, memos, agendas, we have lots of other ways that we capture official records so while in these two instances, we did not have e-mails to respond to requests. we have other types of records that rewe maintain that are looked at to see if we have responsive materials when people ask us through the process. >> i appreciate that. right now i'm talking about e-mails, you don't have e-mails from secretary powell. >> that are responsive to the request. >> yes, ma'am. and you haven't gotten them from secretary clinton, i'm sorry, sec tarretary rice. >> that is correct. >> it's amazing, secretary powell and rice served during critical times in this nation's history during 9/11 attacks the war in afghanistan and the war in iraq yet, as far as we can tell,

ms. grover: good morning chairman katko, ranking member rice, chairman mccaul, and other members and staff. i'm pleased to be here today to discuss t.s.a.'s implementation and oversight of the aviation worker program which t.s.a. and airports used to determine whether airport workers pose security threats. t.s.a. in collaboration with airport operators and the f.b.i. completes applicants' background known as security threat assessments for airport facility workers, retail employees, and airline employees. in general, security threat assessments include checks of an applicant's criminal history immigration status, and known links to terrorism. t.s.a. and airport operators have different responsibilities within the process. airport operators collect applicant information and send it to t.s.a. for the security threat assessment. t.s.a. reviews the results of the terrorism and immigration checks to determine if the applicant meets the eligibility criteria for holding and airport credential. t.s.a. transmits the results of the f.b.i. criminal history checks which contains information from a nat

ms. grover: good morning chairman katko, ranking member rice, chairman mccaul, and other members and staff. i'm pleased to be here today to discuss t.s.a.'s implementation and oversight of the aviation worker program which t.s.a. and airports used to determine whether airport workers pose security threats. t.s.a. in collaboration with airport operators and the f.b.i. completes am cants can't background nokes known as security threat assessments for airport facility workers, retail employees, and airline employees. in general, security threat assessments include checks of an applicant's criminal history, immigration status, and known links to terrorism. t.s.a. and airport operators have different responsibilities within the process. airport operators collect applicant information and send it to t.s.a. for the security threat assessment. t.s.a. reviews the results of the terrorism and immigration checks to determine if the applicant meets the eligibility criteria for holding and airport credential. t.s.a. transmits the results of the f.b.i. criminal history checks which contains information

rice: thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you. miss brownlee? ms. brownlee: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. boardman, i wanted to ask -- i feel pretty confident based on you testimony that at least for the northeast corridor that you're going to be able to complete pdc in a timely way by 2015. i wanted to know whether you believe we have the resources and technology for amtrak at least to complete ptc across the country by 2015? mr. boardman: well, amtrak doesn't have the responsibility to actually implement the ptc across the country on host railroads, for the most part. there have been a couple of class three railroads that believe, one in kansas city, and the other in st. louis, that believe we need to be the ones to implement positive train controls in those communities, and the rest of it is primarily the class one railroads, and our part would be to implement it in the locomotives. and we'll be ready, we believe, when we have their positive train control available. ms. brownlee: so amtrak in california, for example, you're saying you're not responsible for ptc there? mr. boardman yeah

rice farmer. so it was uncomfortably hot and he was sweaty and did have a crazy country song rick perry supporter. honestly, as announce m mslot more to come. as announcements go no big mistakes in the speech he spoke in front of a c-130 which unusual for a big political announcement was not vaguely insulting like mitt romney and paul ryan using an aircraft carrier for their backdrop even though neither of them served in the military or navy. in rick perry's case he did serve in the air force and flue c-130s as a pilot in the air force. it made sense to have one behind him. finally, right? rick perry entering the 2012 presidential race when he got in four years ago he ended with high expectations and tanked but because he tanked so badly in 2012, he actually enters the 2016 race with a lot of motivation to not tank again with low expectations right? from everybody else because he did so badly the last time around. he's got nowhere to go but up. right? still, though even on rick perry's big announcement day which he handled well he did get stepped on from two different political directions. former florida governor jeb bush h