ms. rogers and the planning staff. that would be helpful for me to understand the difference between healthy balance and the existing language. >> with all due respect, they do not mean anything. chairperson mar: did you say weasel words? >> i don't mean anything. -- they don't mean anything. the director did not want to be tied to the background language. that is an evolving document outlining how we think this could be accomplished. the point of this resolution is that currently the balance of market rate to affordable housing -- people are producing 38% affordable housing, historically, over a 20-year period. historically, our housing balance is 7.85, i believe. if the plan is adopted, it projects a 6.6% rate of jobs to housing. if the plan is not adopted, it would drop to about 5%, or a five-to-one ratio. we are asking that if affordability drops below 30% that would trigger the process. if the housing rate drops below 6%, that would -- if the jobs- to-housing rate drops below 6%, that would trigger a conditional u

ms. rogers a question? can you talk a little bit more about the shadows and specifically about mr. carden and miss lively's peach-colored house that's right next door. there are a couple of neighbors that were the ajuvent backyard neighbors but how does the shadow fan change from the current structure to the proposed one? >> of course. through the chair, a shadow fan shows the maximum shadow throughout every day of the year so when you see in the outline is the maximum amount of shadow that's going to be cast. in the picture we had on the diagram, that's showing a shadow fan for a 20-foot building and the building that's there is seven feet. actually the existing shadow is a little bit bigger than what's shown on that shadow fan. does that answer the question or -- >> excuse me. we can't have comments from the gallery during this portion of the hearing. supervisor? >> i was just asking what would be the change with the new building versus what's going on now? >> the shadow fan of the proposed building is chargeo -- larger. it continues the mid block open space and beyond. >> just t

ms. rogers. supervisor kim: thank you for including me at r

ms. rogers has made a request that this item be continued. can i ask supervisor kim to respond? >> it would not change -- supervisor kim: it would not change our position. the planning department has been in discussions with us. they know our position. i do not see how another meeting would make a difference. we have been in discussions for over a month. on the day of to ask for a continuance was a little surprising. i would have been more than happy to discuss this last week. today, i cannot support it. i would like this to go to the full board. this is just a resolution supporting the basic principles of the policy that went through close to a seven-year community process. there was a lot of room for many people to interface with the community members impacted by the planning we do. i have a lot of concerns about what sean has brought uppe, concerns about small builders and developers. i would like large builders to be included in this. that is stop what came out of the community process. i would love to work with small developers to develop a mechanism of predictability. i wo

ms. rogers from the planning department. this resolution has not been sent to the planning commission. only the ordinances are sent to the planning commission, with a 90-day hold. the department is concerned with the task force. we agree that balanced development is of the utmost importance. the general plan has policies that encourage a balance between affordable housing and market rate housing, as well as a balance between jobs and housing. that said, the department has concerns about the proposed message to reach that balance. before you is a resolution that relies on the community work, with a rigid emphasis on new development. this may bind future planning commission or board members from using their discretion to approve what could be potentially a beneficial project. removing that discretion would be a dangerous precedent. a growth ordinance was found to be invalid by the courts. establishing strict controls in such a small geographic area could be problematic. consider the size of western soma and the need of affordable housing, as you have been doing. to give a desired 30% aff

ms. amy wacliff. mr. james rogers and his wife, mrs. mary ann rogers. mrs.. the honorable secretary timothy geithner, secretary of the treasury, and his wife, mrs. carol geithner. mr. jerry sykes and mrs. barbara rosaovich mr. david leanhard and his wife, mrs. laura lionhard. mr. euro -- antonio perez and his wife, mrs. laurie perez. mr. robert mcdonald and his wife, mrs. diane mcdonald. mr. william drosniac and his daughter, ms. natallia drosniac. dr. eileen rosenfeld and her husband, mr. richard ilgin. mr. robert gillette and his wife, ms. liza bunch. mr. mark ayers and his wife, mrs. deborah ayers. the honorable tom barrett, mayor of milwaukee, and his wife, mrs. chris barrett. >> i'm german, also. half irish. >> dr. -- and his wife. mrs. mauricea mayier and her husband, mr. zachary bowe. mrs. bonita bacell and her husband, mr. steven bacell. dr. daniel levinsin, and his wife, mrs. nina levinsen. mr. liel ovaskasa. the honorable john munhiem and his wife, sherry munhiem. mrs. kara mill. mr. duffy and his wife, mrs. heidi duffy. mrs. naomi aferly and her h

ms. ros-lehtinen: thank you, madam speaker. i'm honored to yield five minutes to the gentleman from michigan, mr. rogers, the chairman of the house permanent select committee on intelligence. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan voiced for five minutes. mr. rogers: thank you, madam speaker. and i agree with the gentleman from new york and our political floss fiss may be different, i think it's a powerful and passionate speech. what frustrate mess the most is that we're even having this debate in this way, because the president has not led on this particular issue. he should have come before congress. i think that's clear. i don't think anyone really objects to the fact that he should have come here when any time we put our troops in harm's way, absolutely. i think he's done not a great job about talking what our national security interests are in libya and what role we're playing in libya. bad marks all the way around. but the kucinich amendment, excuse me, resolution, is dangerous. i do believe we have national security interests at stake here. even though the president has gone about i

ms. lee: thank you for your patriotism and commitment to our country and our troops and it is an exciting committee and it is a very important committee and i thank chairman rogers for his leadership and for his service and the attempts to bring this committee together in the spirit of bipartisanship. and i respect and support the president and i applaud him for his tremendous leadership on so many issues. like many of my colleagues, i was tremendously disappoint todd hear the president's announcement last night. three out of four americans want to bring our troops home from afghanistan and this is far from the significant reduction that the american people were expecting. a token troop reduction of 10,000 by the end of this year and waiting another year to remove another 23,000, which in total would reverse the 2009 troop escalation is unacceptable and quite frankly it flies in the face of the growing bipartisan calls across our war-weary nation to exit afghanistan and to refocus on our priorities here at home. i voted against this original authorization in 2001, which was a very difficult vote for me to cast, because i was the only one to cast a no vote. i kne