ms. schinasi? >> we talked before about the uncertainty associated with the job done in the military doesn't want to have the final idea of what the end state is going to look like or when. it seems to me that's always the case in contingencies or bitterness contingency we also saw that twice. we thought first in the initial invasion into iraq and then on the side again with the surge, where there was uncertainty about what was going to happen, what kind of services were going to need, what department, how quickly needed to get there. is there any way you approach the straw down differently with respect to uncertainty. i mean one is ramping up and one is rated down. both cases it seems to me are operating under the same kinds of positions not knowing what the end state is going to be. >> man madam chair -- none commissioner, this is very different now. this time we have a specific specified task, which is to conduct logistic support to the draw down. much like before with the site task to give sinc