ms. sebelius had, quote, misspoke. now, whenever you hear that you know there is trouble. ms. sebelius is not the type of person to misspeak. she is almost robotic in her presentation. what likely happened is that hard core liberals like howard dean and paul krugman heard sebelius and went nuts because the far left fervently wants the government to run the nation's healthcare system. that's because the feds can then redistribute income much easier. shifting resources to the poor and away from corporations and the affluent. it's important that you understand the whole controversy, it's not really about health care. it's about socialism. and dean and krugman are the poster boys for that talking points watched president obama in colorado on saturday and, once again, i had no idea what the president was talking about. he went on and on about health care and all kinds of stuff. that seemingly only he understands. it's kind of a like a polster can he see it nobody else can. if president obama wants more fairness in the health care industry and there should be? he has got to come up w

ms. sebelius has adopted the obama habit of saying that i have never ever changed or waivered. remember obama did that when he said at first he wouldn't take public monies in campaigns and he did, and changed his mind on eavesdropping and wiretapping and pretended he didn't. he always says i never changed. of course, if you are a miss cree ent of liberty and underring, then it is in the eye of the beholder who is not able to read obama's scripture. he has shifted radically. you can't say on the one hand it must be in the bill i sign and then say it is only a sliver, it is inconsistent. what the people understand is that the public anker is so high that it will pass nothing, and that is why it is abandoned. this is a way to placate the left, which understands that it is a way of pretending that it is still on the table. it's off. it's gone. it's dead. it is a dead parrot. bret: so the alternative is said to be the cooperatives which the senate finance committee is looking at. a regional cooperative means that small businesses and small communities negotiate to get health insuran

ms. kathleen sebelius, that maybe the public option is not so important, and then the next day, the white showed regret about that, and they backed off. so they run up a trial balloon, and then we find out it was like tapping the exclusion. it will to let the white house might go for it -- like tapping -- c apping the exclusion -- like capping the exclusion. we do not know where the president stands. greta: when you put the other to him, what did he say? >> he expressed appreciation about working togetherç and ho, you know, itç is politically sensitive, but there was not really anything definitive in the statement. greta: all right, at 9:00 p.m. tomorrow night, you as part of the finance committee have a teleconference, is that right, which the other members of the so-called gang of six media with the other members -- with the other members of the so-called gang of six? >> yes. greta: what is the most important issue? tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m., what do you expect to put on the table? >> it is not that easy, greta. i think we will have a discussion with the six of us about what we are

ms. sebelius' comments a shift on the issue in an e-mail pointing out various occasions on which president obama had pointed out a public auction. on the republican line, what do you make about all this? caller: yes, it is just too bad that the president does not seem able to explain. as a republican, i am really not against the right public option. but it is funny that the president is not it able to explain what is going on with insurance companies. i work for a major company and in retirement i lost my insurance. i did not actually lose it, but i was given the opportunity to continue its with a tremendous premium. by the time i actually figured it out, i realized i did not even have insurance coverage as i have had previously with the company. what they had done was morphed that into a supplement plan, and what was done, upon my retirement, i was forced into using my medicare since that was available to me at the time. that is what the companies are doing. you know, when people think that they retire and they have full coverage, they do not. they force you to use your medicare plan, and