ms. shulman, maybe i can follow up with you. you highlighted in your submitted testimony the importance of this national conversation between the united states government and the american people, on the future security threats that our nation may face. i'd be very interested in what you would commend to us to be thinking about other than declassifying the national strategy or additional congressional conversations. what would you recommend to us for structuring future conversation? >> i could give you my fantasy curriculum for the entire k through 12, but i'll set that aside and perhaps some of that in written testimony. so, i think just to narrow down my recommendation, i think that congress can play a vital role in this conversation in a way that the executive branch is perhaps not motivated to do and the private sector and public-- the public sphere are not necessarily set up well-to-do. whether it be by having-- changing congressional oversite of policy matters from one-off hearings on syria, north korea, and having a series

ms. shulman had mentioned in case of a future national security requirements? >> i'll save everybody, it's a good irish name. but, vice chair wada, i think, i think the time frames there, that's measured, that's months, right? so in our planning process that we've undertaken to pull apart the plan and understand the global nature, we do have decision point well before conflict on the need to mobilize. and those conversations have been on the mobilization of the authorities that we have today. there has been some thought on total mobilization, as you allude to because it's an doctor and. so that's even before we would enter into conflict -- indoctrinated. that process would lead itself to an identification that the all volunteer force would not be sufficient. and so what would come forward would be a request through the joint staff, to osd, to the president, to potentially solicit total mobilization. in that request would be the manpower, a time frames, et cetera. i think that's all measured, that's all measured in months. so i think from the time that we would