cox, ms. sohn are talking about, that are viable and effective?> let me start by saying, thank you for not asking me as tough a of a question as you asked sonja. i think there are a number of answers to the question. if we're just talking about the huge investments in juvenile correctional facilities, let's start with that. you have got the problem essentially of sunk cost. i used to run a juvenile correctional system. i ran these facilities. i have been inside the belly of the beast, so to speak, but i had a key to get out. the marginal cost of putting one more young man in that facility was close to nothing. when you say something cost $150,000 a year, it is not that every time a young person gets on the conveyor belt towards the institution, that if you take them off, you would have $150,000 to send him to harvard for a doctoral degree over the course of time. that is not how it works. that is a challenge. fortunately, we are starting to see, again, in places like new york, california, alabama, to a certain extent, pa., texas, louisiana, drawn