ms. tavner asked time and time again how many people have been successful in signing up. she like officials all around town have refused to answer that question, saying she doesn't know the number. >> many are sames this is similar to the rollout of the medicare d website a few years ago during the bush administration. are the complains similar or is thecorus these days that much louder. >> well, part d medicare, an epic three-hour vote pushed by george bush, he twisted enough arms and got that passed. it didn't rely as much on these technical aspects on the website for enrollment and that's why it's not an apples-to-apples comparison. >> congress also asking questions about an intelligence apparatus . the direction of national intelligence, and nsa director both set to testify about u.s. spying allegations from brazil to germany. randall pinkston joins us live on capital hill, and randall they said trust has to be in their words rebuilt between the u.s. and its allies. are stepping being taken to do that? >> given all of the issues right now, the administration certainly

ms. tavner on how much kathleen sebelius knew?use she's, of course, up tomorrow in front of in this panel. do we expect that as well? >> reporter: absolutely, martha. you have the four federal contractors last thursday who said they were keeping cms, the centers for medicare and medicaid services, abreast of how their testing was going, and yet it was not their call in terms of whether to roll out october isst or not to -- october 1st or not. a lot of lawmakers think maybe sebelius made the call, she's testifying here tomorrow. martha: that's really interesting. we're ant to get our first -- about to get our first sense of how good a handle she had on all of this. we'll be going in and out of this. let's go in for a little bit and see what it sounds like. >> the widespread problems of obamacare cannot. almost daily we hear reports of increasing costs, harming job creation and forcing americans off their current plan. these problems can't be fixed through a technical surge or tech surge, and tear not just a glitch in someone's -- t