ms. tramil and mr. gallagher for coming out today when we had scheduled it.tment your ideas. i think they would all lend itself very well onto the commission but i think it would be helpful to hear from some of the other applicants as well tolñ?ñ?@ give them one more opportunity. at this point we have not heard from them and will consider them amongst those that are there. i would feel comfortable continuing this to the call of the chair hopefully we will be able to schedule itáre november 15 which is our next rules committee and we will be able to get those individuals in attendance. i'm also grateful that we have some young folks that have applied as well, both mr. burnette and mr. gallagher. i think with thehuñ?ñ? wave of young veterans that are coming to the city it's very important for this commission to have that perspective and that experience as well that they can do outreach to the new veterans that are coming back to the city -- or coming toetñ?ñ? the city and county of san francisco. it was great to hear that you felt that this is -- mr. burnette -