ms. upton is being offered as an opinion witness to speak to that. commissioner studley: i have a question about expert no. 5. so to whether someone has played a part in the actual proceedings. cabriolet use as an expert on the issues that are being offered. you folks to do this all the time know better what the experts standard corporate really would be. >> i am not sure if that applies to chief still or specific as to the prosecutor. chairperson hur: would you like to address the question? >> i would like to express our objection to these witnesses and get to that particular witness. those one of many who may have demonstrated their and interested participants here. maybe i should start about -- by going backwards. ms. upton was a vocal critic and if i am not mistaken, when we're here last month, she came up and gave public comments against sheriff mirkarimi. how anyone thinks this type of bias experts should be allowed in spray such as -- sbe was tbhe -- the prosecutor on the criminal case.

ms. matsui and i apologize. >> the gentlelady's time is expired and i now recognize the gentleman of the full committee the gentleman from michigan mr. uptonto decide whether to regulate the internet under rules designed for the 1980 era, telephone networks. on the table is supposed to expand the jurisdiction of the u.n. telecommunications union to cover the internet moving away from the current multi-stakeholder governance model that is fostered the modern internet. also at issue is whether to impose great regulation on the exchange of internet traffic across national borders. both of these are terrible ideas. and a time of economic uncertainty and turmoil the internet does remain a job creation and fosters innovation, brings the folks of the worlds together anyways, drives global discussion of important social matters. the internet has become this economic and social juggernaut not because government actors will continue to do so but because the government took a step back and let the private sector drive its evolution. the nonregulatory multi-stakeholder model allows the internet community to guide its evolution and is rebutted the flex