ms. velasquez. all of the witness that have made reference to 11 million. i hear it everywhere i go. we know it is not. you made reference several times to the 11 million. would you agree with me that those members of the 11 million who cannot pass a background check should be on the path of anything except a deportation? >> maybe those people do not want a path, there should be a pathway for the majority. >> that is very different from what you said earlier. my point is, all 11 million i cannot have any background checks stop all the 11 million of any category of people from futures too nervous congress -- preachers to the congress cannot pass a background check. we know that is disingenuous. all 11 million do not want to be citizens. all cannot pass a background check. even if you can't see that, we get to the details of what the check is going to look like. if you were sitting where he is sitting, if you have a condition for domestic -- conviction for domestic violence, should you be on a pathway to citizenship or deportation? >> i can only argue for my parents -- >> no, no. you a

ms. velasquez. kind of a yes-no. we're focused today on the complex business aggregation rules, but we're focused on other issues, and mr. winstanley has talked about employees getting cut their hours to get them under the 30-hour rule. as we look and try to message some changes that could be made, i would first like to ask each of you if you think, in your opinion, the 30-hour definition of full-time should be increased back to 40 hours. miss walker? >> yes, it will prevent workers from ratcheting down the hours and leave them at 40. >> yes, absolutely. >> very succinct. we talked a lot about the 50. there are a lot of companies in that 40-plus, going to 50, wanting to go to 75, and under obama care, this arbitrary selection of 50 now defining a large corporation doesn't fit with the entrepreneurial spirit. so in the same, you know, what do you think, yes or no, do you think we should increase beyond 50 the number of ftes that would trigger the affordable care act? i don't know if it's 100 or 150, but do you believe

ms. velasquez. i think all of the witness that have made reference to 11 million. i hear it everywhere i go. as if it is a homogenous group. we know it is not. you made reference several times to the 11 million. would you agree with me that those members of the 11 million who cannot pass a background check should be on the path of anything except a deportation? >> maybe those people do not notaybe the people that do pass a background check. i believe that there should be a pathway for the majority. >> that is very different from what you said earlier. my point is, all 11 million i pass any background check. all 11 million of any category of people, from preachers to members of congress, cannot pass a background check. why persist with 11 million, we know that is disingenuous. all 11 million do not want to be citizens. all 11 million cannot pass a background check. even if you can't see that, we get to the details of what the check is going to look like. if you were sitting where he is sitting, if you have a conviction for domestic violence, should you be on a pathw

ms. velasquez. all of the witness that have made reference to 11 million. i hear it everywhere i go. we know it is not. you made reference several times to the 11 million. would you agree with me that those members of the 11 million who cannot pass a background check should be on the path of anything except a deportation? >> maybe those people do not want a path, there should be a pathway for the majority. >> that is very different from what you said earlier. my point is, all 11 million i cannot have any background checks. all the 11 million of any category of people from futures too nervous congress -- preachers to the congress cannot pass a background check. we know that is disingenuous. all 11 million do not want to be citizens. all cannot pass a background check. even if you can see that, we get to the details of what the check is going to look like. if you were sitting where he is sitting, if you have a condition for domestic -- conviction for domestic violence, should you be on a pathway to citizenship or deportation? >> i can only argue for my parents -- >> no, no. you advocat

ms. velasquez says as we look at potential changes that we need and again to state the obvious we all need and want more jobs in the economy. the economy is kind of languishing today and poor jobs is what everything is about, getting the employment down in increasing payroll across the country to drive the economy. >> would you yield? i will join you in supporting legislation in passing the jobs bill that we have had for so long. but we need is to pass legislation to create jobs and we are just waiting for the leadership to do so. >> i can appreciate that. it is jobs that we may disagree on what stimulates jobs. i myself believe in lower taxes, less government interference and certainly we will have other questions today that indicate the impact of the aca. what i heard today though and again i'm a small business guide. we have the mantra grow or die and if you're not growing you're not doing what you should do as an entrepreneur. growth requires capital. accounts receivable inventory etc. etc. and any old all of dollars wasted on regulatory burdens such as the business aggregation rule an