ms. waslin: i've learned so much. i think the biggest take away for me was that the legislatures must speak to the d

ms. waslin: i've learned so much. i think the biggest take away for me was that the legislatures must speak to the dmv's as they are writing legislation. not when it's time for apple meditation because there is so much mutual learning and needs to take place. california in for me i would say absolutely engage early, engaged during the legislative debate. engage the federal government. understand the system, processes, and understand the dmv's engagement with immigration enforcement and homeland security. that process is very important. if your state decides to proceed with a marked card, that is a process of trial and error sometimes where homeland security may approve or reject your card and you have to go back to the drawing board. understand the process within the dmv and the federal government so as legislators you can better navigate the process. mr. vien: early engagement is key. obviously we are engaged early but having been engaged early there are still things on the other side during implementation where we s

ms. waslin: i've learned so much. i think the biggest take away for me was that the legislatures must speak to the dmv's as they are writing legislation. not when it's time for apple meditation because there is so much mutual learning and needs to take place. ms. contreras: for california in me i would say absolutely engage early, engaged during the legislative debate. engage the federal government. understand the system, processes, and understand the dmv's engagement with immigration enforcement and homeland security. that process is very important. if your state decides to proceed with a marked card, that is a process of trial and error sometimes where homeland security may approve or reject your card and you have to go back to the drawing board. understand the process within the dmv and the federal government so as legislators you can better navigate the process. mr. vien: early engagement is key. obviously we are engaged early but having been engaged early there are still things on the other side during implementa

ms. waslin: hawaii passed the law the same day as delaware.e have been speaking to dmv officials and legislators in hawaii. we examined their legislative language and are trying to learn more about that state. one thing that is really interesting about hawaii is there unauthorized population is a little bit different than those in the states represented here. it is many filipinos and people from micronesia. we will see how that affects their decisions around implementation because i expect that the languages they have to produce materials in and the documents they accept from foreign countries are going to be different for that. their law also creates an alternative license that is for unauthorized immigrants but goes well beyond the unauthorized immigrant population as well. they wanted to create a document that other populations that have a hard time getting documents could get. they include the homeless, the elderly, people who are institutionalized. there are a couple different groups of people listed in their legislation. the legislation