ms. wiesner indicated is that it can go up to 4000. when we implemented this this year, we do not address that number. we do not think we would need more than the 4000. it is only elastic up to the 70,000, but no one believes that it will be expanded, obviously, to 70,000. of the 70,000 number, how much of that has been utilized? used up to you have 20,000 so far, you could take that 4000-- talking about this program? this program is not begun yet. >> i know. >> about 6000 refugees ever are this year, from around the world. >> so, in theory, you could move this from 4000 up to 64,000. in theory. that saying that you are, but you have a total of up to that you can use, and if you use 6000 this year, the much higher than 4000. am i losing you? little, because the 6000 of the 70,000 have arrived this year. will year, the allocation probably be informed based on the number that have arrived this year from the region. but it was set at 4000 with the understanding that it would cover the expected number this fiscal year. >> maybe we are spea

ms. wiesner indicated is that the global total is 70,000. when we sent the refugee numbers forward for this year, knowing that this program was going to start, we did not adjust that number. we did not think we would really need more than the 4,000. but it is only elastic up to the 70,000, but no one believes that it will be expanded, obviously, to 70,000. >> of the 70,000 number, how uch of that has been utilized? if you've used up to 20,000, so far, you might have, you could take that -- >> are you talking about with this program? this program hasn't begun yet. >> but you said there's a total of 70,000. >> about 6,000 refugees have arrive sod far this fiscal year. from around the world. >> so in the next fiscal year, you could move it from 4,000 up to 64,000. in theory. not saying that you are. but you have a total of up to 70,000 you could use if you've used 6,000 this year, the total number could be much higher than 4,000. am i losing you. >> a little because the 6,000 of the 70,000 have arrived, this year, next year the allocation will