ms. wiggins. would you agree that one of the things we might be missing is a lack of flexibility between a detroit and a carny nebraska? >> i do understand your question but also as the former food service director in ann arbor, michigan, weather was 3% free and reduced, my parents had the ability to have us through either organization document engagement to put food on the tray. i think what you're missing, please understand that school meals is not a welfare program. it derives direct benefit for all children. those children you're worried about, i also have paid children, those are the children of the working poor, the near poor and the soon to be poor that bring in the junk food to the cafeteria. those kids whose parents can't afford to give the money every day are the kids with their heads down on the cafeteria table and missing lunch. those are the kids now that i'm going to embrace him community a legibility community college building allows me to bring more revenue into my program so that

ms. wiggins?> i am sensitive with ethnic preferences i am from detroit of large hispanic and metal is stern and lithuanians isn't -- you cannot serve healthy but black people really love collard greens and fat but we have changed it since it impacts our health and we have black eyed peas in in sweet potatoes and corn bread but they are all from of the guidelines of usda. it is not like mamas. [laughter] but it is the awareness it can be eaten. fate q. for being here. they q28t levin for chairing the meeting while i was speaking and coding so let the proceed the be all of your input as we resolve the challenges to support our schools to make sure children get what they need. and i mentioned in the first-round, of the concern from the food is service directors the amount of time children have to eat and i hear it after they get through the line they have a couple of minutes. i know this gets into a broader question of districts in how to define lunch, but can you tell us more about the issue and the