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ms. willis, correct? >> yes, sir with ms. willis and my mother. >> your mother is not part of this interrogatory i am talking about ms. willis. so you paid cause to be paid approximately $3335 on that trip the bahamas trip from october 28 through october the 31st, correct? >> have done this several times per click is covid new gram perks i am to establish with specificity the things he had done to entertain or be entertained prior to may the 30th 2020 throughout try to move through quickly. >> is part of the record in terms of his prior chest might want to link those things together you can do that through argument. >> so let me discuss this. you indicated that during the course of your explanation concerning the belize trip that ms. willis paid you all that money back in cash, remember? >> yes, sir. >> the beliefs that trip had just happened, had met? that was in march 18, 2023, right? >> yes, sir. >> you are filing this maybe two months after he had gone to belize with ms. willis, correct? >> again. >> we might be getting so
ms. willis, correct? >> yes, sir with ms. willis and my mother. >> your mother is not part of this interrogatory i am talking about ms. willis. so you paid cause to be paid approximately $3335 on that trip the bahamas trip from october 28 through october the 31st, correct? >> have done this several times per click is covid new gram perks i am to establish with specificity the things he had done to entertain or be entertained prior to may the 30th 2020 throughout try to move...
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ms willis, had you not? >> i then saw him, yes. >> and in fact, under your testimony you would have said that she had also entertained you. isn't that correct? >> yes. >> and so your answer to this interrogatory is false, is it not, sir? >> no, it's not false. >> well, to dance around the you, the answer is yes, you did entertain as well as correct? right? >> yes >> she's not she's not your spouse at that time or anytime, correct >> that's correct. >> she's not related to you by blood or marriage, correct? >> that's correct. but you entertained it, right? >> yes. and during the course from your marriage, the period of time up to the press. so the answer would have been yes, i did entertain somebody, correct? >> during the course of the marriage, know mr. wade, mr. galen, i think we've we've made your point. i think it speaks for itself and we can save that i'll just >> follow up with one quick question. >> you understand >> what the word present needs your honor. >> that's going to ask i think we do care tha
ms willis, had you not? >> i then saw him, yes. >> and in fact, under your testimony you would have said that she had also entertained you. isn't that correct? >> yes. >> and so your answer to this interrogatory is false, is it not, sir? >> no, it's not false. >> well, to dance around the you, the answer is yes, you did entertain as well as correct? right? >> yes >> she's not she's not your spouse at that time or anytime, correct >> that's...
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ms. willis -- with ms. willis. >> those are things i booked with my card that she paid, yes. >> so those show up on your credit stkphard. >> they do. and you're saying she paid you cash to reimburse you for all of that. >> she did. >> and she paid you cash for both of your portions or just hers? >> both. >> ok. so that trip, belize, she paid you for everything. >> the entire trip. >> so the food, all that stuff, she paid for? >> i'm going to -- >> there was no tattoo parlor in belize. >> there's a tattoo parlor on the charges. i'm not getting into what it was for. i'm just asking if everything that's on that card related to belize, she paid you back for? >> she paid for, yes, ma'am. >> let's talk about california in may, 2023. you went to california together. and you booked plane tickets. >> yes. >> and her name was on those plane tickets. >> they were. >> and so i know you said you were worried about security and things like that, but that was in her name. when she traveled, she had to use her name. >> the
ms. willis -- with ms. willis. >> those are things i booked with my card that she paid, yes. >> so those show up on your credit stkphard. >> they do. and you're saying she paid you cash to reimburse you for all of that. >> she did. >> and she paid you cash for both of your portions or just hers? >> both. >> ok. so that trip, belize, she paid you for everything. >> the entire trip. >> so the food, all that stuff, she paid for? >> i'm...
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ms. willis at ms. willis' then-current abode, which would have been a place, not her original house, but a place she was staying in the period of 2021, before november 1 of 2021? it is precedent, did mr. wade ever tell you that he visited ms. willis at her house? >> i don't think i can answer that. >> privilege -- [indiscernible] -- >> if you want to rephrase the question, you can, otherwise that will be sustained. >> on both grounds or just on the privilege ground. >> i didn't hear a second ground. >> hearsay ground. >> that would be on privilege alone. >> did you talk to mr. wade at all about his relationship with ms. willis prior to november 1 of 2021? >> i think he's just billing a record. on those same grounds, all subsequent grounds, apparently the relationship with ms. willis in any way is covered by privilege according to this witness. >> i think the key words respectfully are, according to this witness. so i'm trying to drill down to see if there are communications that are not within the privi
ms. willis at ms. willis' then-current abode, which would have been a place, not her original house, but a place she was staying in the period of 2021, before november 1 of 2021? it is precedent, did mr. wade ever tell you that he visited ms. willis at her house? >> i don't think i can answer that. >> privilege -- [indiscernible] -- >> if you want to rephrase the question, you can, otherwise that will be sustained. >> on both grounds or just on the privilege ground....
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ms. willis at ms. willis' then-current abode, which would have been a place, not her original house, but a place she was staying in the period of 2021, before november 1 of 2021? it is precedent, did mr. wade ever tell you that he visited ms. willis at her house? >> i don't think i can answer that. >> privilege -- [indiscernible] -- >> if you want to rephrase the question, you can, otherwise that will be sustained. >> on both grounds or just on the privilege ground. >> i didn't hear a second ground. >> hearsay ground. >> that would be on privilege alone. >> did you talk to mr. wade at all about his relationship with ms. willis prior to november 1 of 2021? >> i think he's just billing a record. on those same grounds, all subsequent grounds, apparently the relationship with ms. willis in any way is covered by privilege according to this witness. >> i think the key words respectfully are, according to this witness. so i'm trying to drill down to see if there are communications that are not within the privi
ms. willis at ms. willis' then-current abode, which would have been a place, not her original house, but a place she was staying in the period of 2021, before november 1 of 2021? it is precedent, did mr. wade ever tell you that he visited ms. willis at her house? >> i don't think i can answer that. >> privilege -- [indiscernible] -- >> if you want to rephrase the question, you can, otherwise that will be sustained. >> on both grounds or just on the privilege ground....
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ms. willis, correct? >> yes, sir, with ms. willis and my mother. >> well, your mother's not a part of this interrogatory. i'm talking about ms. willis, okay? so you paid and caused to be paid approximately $3,335 on that trip, bahamas trip from october the 28th through october the 31st, correct? >> your honor, objection, i think we've tread this ground several times already. >> mr. gillen, let's cover new ground. >> i was just trying to establish with specificity the things that he had done to entertain or be entertained prior to may the 30th, 2023. i'll try to move through them quickly. >> that's already part of the record in terms of his prior testimony, if you want to link those two things together, you can do that during argument. >> let me discuss this, you indicated that during the course of your explanation concerning the police trip that ms. willis -- ms. willis paid you all that money back in cash. remember? >> yes, sir. >> now, the belize trip had just happened, hadn't it? that occurred march 18th, 2023, right? >> yes
ms. willis, correct? >> yes, sir, with ms. willis and my mother. >> well, your mother's not a part of this interrogatory. i'm talking about ms. willis, okay? so you paid and caused to be paid approximately $3,335 on that trip, bahamas trip from october the 28th through october the 31st, correct? >> your honor, objection, i think we've tread this ground several times already. >> mr. gillen, let's cover new ground. >> i was just trying to establish with specificity...
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ms. willis again judge. >> will be here to get ms. merchant question. >> luckily i do not have to tell them everything i plan on introducing the witness for and response of their motion to quash she has a lot of personal knowledge. when we had a motion to quash i had to get over good faith basis i presented that to the court. i did not spend four hours going through everything. she has personal knowledge for greg she actually here? >> and she's on zoom but i understand regrets. >> she is on the zuma platform your honor out of richmond county she is on the zuma platform at this time and i am in the waiting room i believe she may have seen it i see a robin on the screen i believe that's my client brickwork soon to examine her by zoom? >> that is fine. will waive the amendment objection. >> my only objection his representation at monday's hearing was good faith basis based on what she learned from bradley. we know that's false, is not true we renew our objection. >> those not in regards too. >> it certainly was. >> a judge, she has perso
ms. willis again judge. >> will be here to get ms. merchant question. >> luckily i do not have to tell them everything i plan on introducing the witness for and response of their motion to quash she has a lot of personal knowledge. when we had a motion to quash i had to get over good faith basis i presented that to the court. i did not spend four hours going through everything. she has personal knowledge for greg she actually here? >> and she's on zoom but i understand...
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ms. willis.t is expected to resume tomorrow. >> so rule 615 out ask if any witnesses subpoenaed are expected to testify the hearing today they should remain outside the courtroom until called. they should not discuss her testimony in the other witness or launch any recording until the end is concluded or they are excused from being called today. are there any exceptions to this rule? any from the defense? >> yes your honor. prior to starting any testimony would like to address that matter is what was represented during previous hearings as it relates to witness testimony specifically the testimony of the former law partner of nathan wade. what the state would like the court to understand and realize is that in preparation for this hearing and in speaking to witnesses and giving additional research as it relates to the comments that were represented specifically. we have been able to claim the defendant has asserted and did assert to the last hearing on monday are not only legally meritless but fa
ms. willis.t is expected to resume tomorrow. >> so rule 615 out ask if any witnesses subpoenaed are expected to testify the hearing today they should remain outside the courtroom until called. they should not discuss her testimony in the other witness or launch any recording until the end is concluded or they are excused from being called today. are there any exceptions to this rule? any from the defense? >> yes your honor. prior to starting any testimony would like to address that...
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ms. willis is not on trial, ms. illis has not -- is not a party to the litigation outside her obligation to pursue criminal charges for the state. >> ms. merchant, i guess it's evolved into a hearsay objection. >> yes, judge, and we plan on calling ms. willis to the stand. she's under subpoena, so hearsay will be cured. if there is a hearsay objection as far as that issue. but we do still think it's a statement against interest. ms. willis has filed a document that states's conference -- >> i thinky streamline. the state will stipulate that district attorney willis and mr. wade met in october 2019 at the judicial conference that we've been talking about. there's no reason to get it secondhand from this witness. that's true. >> all right. do you accept the stipulation, ms. merchant? >> yes, am i permitted then to ask questions about that since it's now not hearsay? >> if it's just to a stipulation, if it's just of that basic fact, i don't think there's a needed question but if there's a follow-up you think is admissib
ms. willis is not on trial, ms. illis has not -- is not a party to the litigation outside her obligation to pursue criminal charges for the state. >> ms. merchant, i guess it's evolved into a hearsay objection. >> yes, judge, and we plan on calling ms. willis to the stand. she's under subpoena, so hearsay will be cured. if there is a hearsay objection as far as that issue. but we do still think it's a statement against interest. ms. willis has filed a document that states's...
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ms. willis took? mr. bradley: no. ms. merchant: do you have any knowledge of the trips that he and ms. willis took. >> objection, hearsay. judge mcafee: overruled. mr. bradley: i do now. ms. merchant: but you did not before this proceeding. mr. bradley: i do not know -- i did not know until you texted that you found in the deposition of his divorce, not deposition but something from his divorce. ms. merchant: ok. when you responded, "doesn't surprise me, they took many trips to florida, texas and florida," those are your words? >> objection -- ms. merchant: he said he learned about certain trips from ms. merchant. judge mcafee: if you can tie it down. >> no information on any trips, that he learned it all from ms. merchant was his testimony. judge mcafee: i think she will ask more than one question. ms. merchant: judge, so we can be clear, if he said more than one version, that is all relevant. we are allowed to talk about the different versions he has told. do you a member telling me, it did not surprise you that that they took the trips because they took many trips to florida, texas a
ms. willis took? mr. bradley: no. ms. merchant: do you have any knowledge of the trips that he and ms. willis took. >> objection, hearsay. judge mcafee: overruled. mr. bradley: i do now. ms. merchant: but you did not before this proceeding. mr. bradley: i do not know -- i did not know until you texted that you found in the deposition of his divorce, not deposition but something from his divorce. ms. merchant: ok. when you responded, "doesn't surprise me, they took many trips to...
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ms. willis? our affidavit before it was included so as far as you know, i didn't get to her. no one else told you she did or didn't. >> $10000, give or take what often reflected on your credit card statements in connection with the potential benefit to its fullest, i want you to assume that. assuming there was $10000 on the credit cards ms. willis paid you back $10000 in cash? >> cannot object? the numbers have been provided for joint travel, is that right? >> it's not joint but all -- i'll rephrase. you know, i'm not asking whether she took it out of her pocketbook, i'm saying do you know the ports of the cash? and the whole time she was paying you cash, he never said why you have this amount of cash? >> people coming all the time with cash. >> we are talking not about people who come into your law firm but i'm assuming they received a paycheck, she doesn't get paid in cash to mark just like you assume, i assumed she got from her paycheck, lateral. >> i'm not going to go back into it, he'd not se
ms. willis? our affidavit before it was included so as far as you know, i didn't get to her. no one else told you she did or didn't. >> $10000, give or take what often reflected on your credit card statements in connection with the potential benefit to its fullest, i want you to assume that. assuming there was $10000 on the credit cards ms. willis paid you back $10000 in cash? >> cannot object? the numbers have been provided for joint travel, is that right? >> it's not joint...
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he met ms willis in 2019. that's clearly within the bounds of attorney-client privilege, but there's understood, mr. body. so i think ms merchant, you need to qualify that question thank you >> i'm not asking you to tell me what nathan wade told you in furtherance of legal advice. okay. so i want to be very clear. if he i told you something asking you legal advice, i'm not asking you about that. i'm asking about what you observed. what you saw, and what you knew outside of what he told you when he was specifically seeking legal advice for you apologize. >> again on mr. bradley, he's asserting that 20 client privilege associated with this case when removed 1.6 the drawing inference and statements that will be other proper of information after this relationship began between attorney and client december 2018 would be improper and you would in fact, the violating rules about his bar license so the way the question was phrased was just saying, what did he personally observe outside of the relationship? not involved
he met ms willis in 2019. that's clearly within the bounds of attorney-client privilege, but there's understood, mr. body. so i think ms merchant, you need to qualify that question thank you >> i'm not asking you to tell me what nathan wade told you in furtherance of legal advice. okay. so i want to be very clear. if he i told you something asking you legal advice, i'm not asking you about that. i'm asking about what you observed. what you saw, and what you knew outside of what he told...
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ms. willis' boyfriend you referenced. you met mr. willis' boyfriend you characterized it when you came here in 2019. >> correct. >> and you met him on one occasion, several occasions? >> i saw him often. >> you mean there was no secret that she was dating this man. >> not from me. >> not from you. >> he was -- again he was a disc jockey of some kind. i think he had a government job -- during the day. i don't know what it was. apparently he would do weddings and so forth. he was a disc jockey, played music. all his stuff always in the way. i was always having to try to push it aside. >> your daughter didn't keep him from you, correct? >> no. >> there was no doubt -- >> we lived -- my daughter and i lived in the same house. he came and went. >> right. now, when did you learn that your daughter had a romantic personal relationship with mr. wade? >> about seven weeks ago when -- as a matter of fact, i just found out when other folks found out. >> your daughter, as i understand t. never told you -- understand it, never told you one time in
ms. willis' boyfriend you referenced. you met mr. willis' boyfriend you characterized it when you came here in 2019. >> correct. >> and you met him on one occasion, several occasions? >> i saw him often. >> you mean there was no secret that she was dating this man. >> not from me. >> not from you. >> he was -- again he was a disc jockey of some kind. i think he had a government job -- during the day. i don't know what it was. apparently he would do...
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wade in ms willis's relationship? >> did i lie to ms a. >> question, mr. bradley, you're a lawyer. did you lie to ms merchant when you told her facts about mr. wade and missing willis's relationship? >> not that i recall. i don't recall mentioned earlier that i'm speculated on some things i've testified to what i didn't know. so i can't recall whether or not no. >> mr. bradley's speculation is kind of weaselly lawyer word. let's speak truth here that under oath, argumentative at this point, your honor >> relevant questions. >> mr. bragg, final question, mr. rice? mr. bradley, when you are communicating different details of the relationship between ms willis and mr. wade to mrs. merchant, did you lie to her about any of those details? objection. asked and answered twice. >> i don't think he's answered yet. i don't recall ever whether any of it was a lie or not? well, it's done. so at the time you were communicating with us merchant, you are still friends with mr. wade, correct? >> yes. >> and at the time you were communicating with ms murcia, you knew that she was talking to you in
wade in ms willis's relationship? >> did i lie to ms a. >> question, mr. bradley, you're a lawyer. did you lie to ms merchant when you told her facts about mr. wade and missing willis's relationship? >> not that i recall. i don't recall mentioned earlier that i'm speculated on some things i've testified to what i didn't know. so i can't recall whether or not no. >> mr. bradley's speculation is kind of weaselly lawyer word. let's speak truth here that under oath,...
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ms. willis did all the talking. mr. wade did not. >> we exchanged pleasantries, but as far as the basis of the conversation, the reason i was there was willis. >> would you be able to give us an estimate how long this meeting lasted? roughly. >> probably an hour. >> during the meeting you made it clear, it was the thanks for the offer but no thank you. >> oh, yes. i did. as i said -- i started off as a prosecutor. and for about 10 or 15 years i did nothing but criminal. but i have tried to move away from it. and do primarily civil math. we have done some white collar cases over in federal court. i've one over there right now. but it's generally business related. where i have a client that's got a kid or him getting indicted. and the case i have over there now is an alleged fraud case. >> fair to say that based on your career and the work that you have done, you have handled high profile cases, correct? >> i have. i've handled pretty big cases. i sued syria one time for beheading a client of mine. recovered $83 million. i
ms. willis did all the talking. mr. wade did not. >> we exchanged pleasantries, but as far as the basis of the conversation, the reason i was there was willis. >> would you be able to give us an estimate how long this meeting lasted? roughly. >> probably an hour. >> during the meeting you made it clear, it was the thanks for the offer but no thank you. >> oh, yes. i did. as i said -- i started off as a prosecutor. and for about 10 or 15 years i did nothing but...
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ms. willis did all the talking. mr. wade did not. >> we exchanged pleasantries, but as far as the basis of the conversation, the reason i was there was willis. >> would you be able to give us an estimate how long this meeting lasted? roughly. >> probably an hour. >> during the meeting you made it clear, it was the thanks for the offer but no thank you. >> oh, yes. i did. as i said -- i started off as a prosecutor. and for about 10 or 15 years i did nothing but criminal. but i have tried to move away from it. and do primarily civil math. we have done some white collar cases over in federal court. i've one over there right now. but it's generally business related. where i have a client that's got a kid or him getting indicted. and the case i have over there now is an alleged fraud case. >> fair to say that based on your career and the work that you have done, you have handled high profile cases, correct? >> i have. i've handled pretty big cases. i sued syria one time for beheading a client of mine. recovered $83 million. i
ms. willis did all the talking. mr. wade did not. >> we exchanged pleasantries, but as far as the basis of the conversation, the reason i was there was willis. >> would you be able to give us an estimate how long this meeting lasted? roughly. >> probably an hour. >> during the meeting you made it clear, it was the thanks for the offer but no thank you. >> oh, yes. i did. as i said -- i started off as a prosecutor. and for about 10 or 15 years i did nothing but...
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ms. willis made to her. she brought it up on cross examination on several occasions, did miss willis say this and inform you of this. i want to ask her about what ms. willis told her about her romantic relationship. >> take those one at a time and i don't know about a complete opening of the door. we'll see where we go. >> the first time you spoke to miss willis about her relationship, romantic relationship with mr. wade, do you happen to remember what miss willis said in essence, not word for word but in essence what she said? >> no. >> do you remember the first time she told you in whatever words were you there was a romantic relationship? >> i don't. >> is this the conversation you had with your best friend on going over a period of time and common knowledge to you that there was an ongoing relationship between miss willis and mr. wade? >> what's the question? >> i'll ask it again. is the nature of your then relationship with ms. willis such that you were having these ongoing conversations best friend-time
ms. willis made to her. she brought it up on cross examination on several occasions, did miss willis say this and inform you of this. i want to ask her about what ms. willis told her about her romantic relationship. >> take those one at a time and i don't know about a complete opening of the door. we'll see where we go. >> the first time you spoke to miss willis about her relationship, romantic relationship with mr. wade, do you happen to remember what miss willis said in essence,...
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>> i had very little contact with ms willis. i knew her through my business of coming down to fulton if that's what you're asking yes. >> you knew her through the business. so had you had met her prior to your contract? >> i'm going to object to relevance at this point is to live with you today. >> sure. >> did. >> he doesn't remember much of anything right now and so i'm trying to create a timeline to hopefully piece this together. >> all right. well i'm not seeing really the likelihood that that's going to have any success. i'll i'll let you ask a few more questions, but if he doesn't have a date, then i don't know that you're gonna be able to create one today. >> okay. thank you. >> the time. that, you had this contract from january 2021 until january 2022, did you come in and out of the da's office? >> yes. >> and so were you able to witness mr. wade, ms willis interacts during that time? >> i'm going to object when asked and answered. it was addressed. the last hearing about mr. bradley's access to and from a specific room
>> i had very little contact with ms willis. i knew her through my business of coming down to fulton if that's what you're asking yes. >> you knew her through the business. so had you had met her prior to your contract? >> i'm going to object to relevance at this point is to live with you today. >> sure. >> did. >> he doesn't remember much of anything right now and so i'm trying to create a timeline to hopefully piece this together. >> all right. well...
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ms. willis in 2023 to belize. >> i did. >> did you take a trip to california with ms. llis in 2023. >> i did. >> did you pay for those trips on that credit card? >> i used the credit card to book the travel, but, understand,. >> she paid you back cash? >> well, let me say, this let's take the belize trip, for example, you started there. >> okay. >> that was a birthday gift to me. so i paid nothing for that trip, zero. >> okay. so the charges that are on your card, she gave you cash for? >> she did. >> okay. >> laura: cash. now, we're supposed to believe that fani willis was carrying around just large amounts of cash. of course cash is not traceable. now, when the d.a. unexpectedly appeared on the stand today, she did address this or tried to. >> i know he initially paid for it. did you pay him back? >> for the cruise and for aruba yeah i gave him money before we ever went on the trip. >> you gave him cash before you went on the trip? >> um-huh. >> later this afternoon sadow. >> i'm asking if this he would reflected on credit card bills. >> $500 reflected on debit card.
ms. willis in 2023 to belize. >> i did. >> did you take a trip to california with ms. llis in 2023. >> i did. >> did you pay for those trips on that credit card? >> i used the credit card to book the travel, but, understand,. >> she paid you back cash? >> well, let me say, this let's take the belize trip, for example, you started there. >> okay. >> that was a birthday gift to me. so i paid nothing for that trip, zero. >> okay. so the...
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ms ms willis is a very as of my private people, not our relationship wasn't a secret. it was just private so not at all. i wouldn't have discuss my relationship with ms uri or anyone else publicly. >> okay. >> i actually did have some questions the invoices. >> we want to just using the documents that you referred. >> yeah. they are it's all of his invoices. i mean, what >> kind of questions with these other day? what's the seventh they say? >> it just a yes that they say what they say. >> just talk about. that's fine. no >> thank you. all right. at this point, we'll take a break. i'll ask the parties to take a look at what did you mark that as a defense exhibit >> i contracts in his invoices that i'm about to mark. >> so before he me i just want to make sure that the state doesn't have any objection to those are marked as era about to be marks exhibit 14. >> 14, 15 all right. >> so 14 through 18th. so the state take a look at those. i will take a look those and see if i can match them up with certified documents that were all right. and then we'll address whether they
ms ms willis is a very as of my private people, not our relationship wasn't a secret. it was just private so not at all. i wouldn't have discuss my relationship with ms uri or anyone else publicly. >> okay. >> i actually did have some questions the invoices. >> we want to just using the documents that you referred. >> yeah. they are it's all of his invoices. i mean, what >> kind of questions with these other day? what's the seventh they say? >> it just a yes...
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ms. willis? mr. bradley: my interaction with ms. willis was never where i would pick up the phone and talk to her or anything like that. >> so you didn't hang out with ms. willis, did not have a personal relationship with her? mr. bradley: no, i never had any personal relationship. i mentioned before that i went to a dinner that was after she was elected that was at a steakhouse, but it was 75 200 people there. >> so you knew of her, you just did not have a business relationship or personal relationship with her, at least a close one? mr. bradley: she was in the das office and i had criminal cases, but i did not personally know her, no. >> not having known her, not really hanging out with her, you got a contract from her office. >> i am going to object. asked and answered. judge mcafee: i think you covered this ground on the 16th about the contracts. are you going somewhere else with this? >> i am, judge, if you would give me a little latitude. judge mcafee: you may proceed. >> you got a contract from the office not knowing or having
ms. willis? mr. bradley: my interaction with ms. willis was never where i would pick up the phone and talk to her or anything like that. >> so you didn't hang out with ms. willis, did not have a personal relationship with her? mr. bradley: no, i never had any personal relationship. i mentioned before that i went to a dinner that was after she was elected that was at a steakhouse, but it was 75 200 people there. >> so you knew of her, you just did not have a business relationship or...
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>> yes. >> did ms willis or mr.ing up the name nathan wade as a special prosecutor. >> i don't think so. i don't recall what i mean, nathan is the good order matters. >> you know >> anything can organized i've watched him over the years. so i wouldn't surprise that he was activists >> and mr. desantis, for the record, who is that? jeff desantis. yeah >> do you know who he is? oh, yes. >> could you tell us who he is for the record? >> jeff works in the da's office. i knew cerebri banker. >> yeah. what is what his role in the da's offices i have no worth see in is that sound familiar as he has done me? and the pay is jeff has generally been elijah and i'm very close to him, but he's generally been on the other side of my campaign. >> all right. so we're talking the best of your recollection conference. we don't have the date. i'm asking if you could possibly get it, but the conference you have, mr. wade could have been there. >> yes. i'm almost sure it was ms willis, obviously. and mr. desantis was there. >> i think m
>> yes. >> did ms willis or mr.ing up the name nathan wade as a special prosecutor. >> i don't think so. i don't recall what i mean, nathan is the good order matters. >> you know >> anything can organized i've watched him over the years. so i wouldn't surprise that he was activists >> and mr. desantis, for the record, who is that? jeff desantis. yeah >> do you know who he is? oh, yes. >> could you tell us who he is for the record? >> jeff...
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ms. willis. i thought the point of the hearing was an evidence hearing and i was waiting for the evidence. they talked about mr. wade's timesheet and invoices those types of things. none of that came out. i was surprised the judge allowed the salacious testimony. it felt more like a reality show than courtroom proceedings but i was impressed with ms willis. i think she didn't outstanding job. host: the events in georgia are not the only things taking place. when it comes to the hush money trial will start on march 25. mr. trump will have to navigate his courtroom calendar. it was scheduled to begin on march 4 has been postponed in the supreme court may take up an appeal which would push the court back. they denied donald trump's his motion to dismiss. the events in georgia and the focus here today. fani willis testifying yesterday and you can call in (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, for independents (202) 748-8002 in georgia residents. (202) 748-8003. caller: thank yo
ms. willis. i thought the point of the hearing was an evidence hearing and i was waiting for the evidence. they talked about mr. wade's timesheet and invoices those types of things. none of that came out. i was surprised the judge allowed the salacious testimony. it felt more like a reality show than courtroom proceedings but i was impressed with ms willis. i think she didn't outstanding job. host: the events in georgia are not the only things taking place. when it comes to the hush money trial...
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ms merchant, any other witnesses? yes. i would call fani willis >> all right. ms cross, you and i am going to adapt and removed there's been now. lots of testimony from your ways. i don't believe that there can be a showing for the need for that for any to testify as for all of the reasons that were cited in the state's motion to quash initially tremendously high-burden know while opposing counsel, i don't believe it's the met particularly given the cumulative nature that would be the subject of personal detail. that is the way it's not testified why what do, you think you can establish and have through the testimony of ms willis and >> let me put me stop there. >> conflict in the up and stretch. now mr. wade has testified there's a conflict in multiple different on the first one is an embarrassment issue on the cash that would be the door so here's goal is testifying. >> well, what's what's the conflict there >> he testified that he didn't have receipts but we don't know who's willing so that i wanted so we don't we don't know. so there's no conflict. we just d
ms merchant, any other witnesses? yes. i would call fani willis >> all right. ms cross, you and i am going to adapt and removed there's been now. lots of testimony from your ways. i don't believe that there can be a showing for the need for that for any to testify as for all of the reasons that were cited in the state's motion to quash initially tremendously high-burden know while opposing counsel, i don't believe it's the met particularly given the cumulative nature that would be the...
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ms. willis ever? c >> ever? >> ever. w >> no. >> you had never gone to a cabin with ms. llis. >> no . >> wow and when confronted about the trips between the two of them wade said fani willis always repaid him in cash which isn't traceable. well that's pretty convenient, isn't it? take a look. >> you used your business credit card for these trips correct. >> i use my business credit card for everything. >> okay, yes. you use it for your kids' tuition. >> yes, ma'am. >> you used it for personal travel with ms. willis. >> yes, ma'am. >> you said in the affidavit that you roughly shared travel though correct. >> yes, ma'am. >> so this roughly sharing travel you're saying she reimbursed you. >> she did. >> and where did you deposit the money she reimbursed you. >> it was cash. she didn't, she didn't give me any checks. >> now throughout his entire testimony, nathan wade seemed very uncomfortable. he ways often seen wiping sweat off his face wile taking questions, and fani willis took the stand after nathan wade and was pressed on these payments. here's what she had to say. tak
ms. willis ever? c >> ever? >> ever. w >> no. >> you had never gone to a cabin with ms. llis. >> no . >> wow and when confronted about the trips between the two of them wade said fani willis always repaid him in cash which isn't traceable. well that's pretty convenient, isn't it? take a look. >> you used your business credit card for these trips correct. >> i use my business credit card for everything. >> okay, yes. you use it for your kids'...
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ms. willis? >> no. >> sean: wow! he said fanni willis always repaid him in cash which isn't traceable. that's pretty convenient, isn't it? take a look. >> you used your business credit card for these trips, correct? >> i use my business credit card for everything. >> yes. you use it for your kids tuition? >> yes, ma'am. >> you used it for personal travel with ms. willis? >> yes, ma'am. >> you said in the affidavit that you roughly shared travel, though, correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. so this sharing travel you're saying she reimbursed you? >> she did. >> where did you deposit the money she reimbursed you? >> it was cash. it seems to me didn't give me any checks. >> sean: throughout his entire testimony wade seemed very uncomfortable. he was often seen wiping sweat off his face while taking questions and fanni willis took the stand after nathan wade and was pressed on these payments. here's what she had to say. take a look. >> where did that cash come from? >> cash is fungible. i've had cash for
ms. willis? >> no. >> sean: wow! he said fanni willis always repaid him in cash which isn't traceable. that's pretty convenient, isn't it? take a look. >> you used your business credit card for these trips, correct? >> i use my business credit card for everything. >> yes. you use it for your kids tuition? >> yes, ma'am. >> you used it for personal travel with ms. willis? >> yes, ma'am. >> you said in the affidavit that you roughly shared...
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ms. willis and mr. we will sort it outline as you the rest of the week unfolds. i want to turn to the "special report" classified documents, byron. real pushback from the white house. >> the president himself about what was in that report, the special counsel hur's report. here's what he said in part about that. >> there is even reference that i don't remember when my son died. how in the hell dare he raise that. frankly, when i was asked the question, i thought to myself, it wasn't any of their damn business. >> bret: well, we have confirmed this nbc news report now. biden attacked hur for asking when bo dyed. but hur never asked that question. according to two people familiar with hur's five-hour interview with the president over two days last october. it was the president, not hur or his team who first introduced beau biden's death, they said. >> we don't have the transcript but we have a confirmed that element of the story, byron. >> that was the emotional core of the president's pushback. we all kn
ms. willis and mr. we will sort it outline as you the rest of the week unfolds. i want to turn to the "special report" classified documents, byron. real pushback from the white house. >> the president himself about what was in that report, the special counsel hur's report. here's what he said in part about that. >> there is even reference that i don't remember when my son died. how in the hell dare he raise that. frankly, when i was asked the question, i thought to myself,...
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ms. willis begin? >> 2022. >> when. >> early 2022. >> so you were appointed in november of 2021. >> yes, ma'am. >> your relationship started early, january, february? >> around march. >> around march. but you two met at an october 2019 judicial conference, correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> and describe your relationship at that point, then? >> which point? >> 2019. >> so i was at a judicial conference to teach a course, if you will, to newer judges. i did that in 2019. as i was exiting the conference, another judge was standing outside who was a friend of mine. i stopped and exchanged pleasantries with her. and standing talking to her at the time was then judge willis. she introduced us at that time. we shook hands, exchanged business cards, and i got into my vehicle and left the conference. so that meeting was probably three minutes. >> when was the next time to talked to her? >> didn't talk to her again probably maybe a month or month and a half had gone by. >> you talked to her november maybe? >> maybe. >>
ms. willis begin? >> 2022. >> when. >> early 2022. >> so you were appointed in november of 2021. >> yes, ma'am. >> your relationship started early, january, february? >> around march. >> around march. but you two met at an october 2019 judicial conference, correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> and describe your relationship at that point, then? >> which point? >> 2019. >> so i was at a judicial conference to teach a course, if...
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ms. willis many times, and she, ms. willis, entertained him, well, that is, they were lovers, and willis at that. she was outraged by the assumption that she slept with her subordinate almost on the first night, that is, she slept, apparently, on the second, the very fact of the presence of a carnal relationship, she did not refute, everything would be fine, the matter, as they say, is everyday, but handsome nathan , who, by the way, has a legal wife and children, but we will also leave them out of the equation, having received the right to investigate the trump case, said that he needs the details of... donald trump. in general, the sweetest couple wade and willis are facing criminal charges case. and not the targeted use of budget funds, well, trump is preparing for the primaries , first the war, everything is going to the point that he does receive the nomination and his return to the white house is literally a stone’s throw away, our candidate, the kremlin’s candidate, biden, president putin also said the day before
ms. willis many times, and she, ms. willis, entertained him, well, that is, they were lovers, and willis at that. she was outraged by the assumption that she slept with her subordinate almost on the first night, that is, she slept, apparently, on the second, the very fact of the presence of a carnal relationship, she did not refute, everything would be fine, the matter, as they say, is everyday, but handsome nathan , who, by the way, has a legal wife and children, but we will also leave them...
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ms. willis in cash, do you? >> no, sir. >> not a single solitary one. >> not one. >> if you are paid in cash, you spend the cash, but someone's got to have a withdrawal slip. remember, you cannot ask her to those questions. she has had that horde for at least ten years. it is not unusual for clients to come to his law firm and that paying a large of cash. what kind of law firm accepts larger chunks of cash from clients? that kind of guy is prosecuting the presence of the united states? a personal injury attorney that takes cash payments, no questions asked? are you kidding me? this is how wade does business. wade puts everything he spends his money on on his corporate card. and then at the end of the year, he gives the statement to his tax attorney, and the tax attorney divides what was business and what was personal, and then they file their taxes. i have never ever heard of anybody doing that at all. also funny from wade. at this point he is not supposed to be sleeping with fani. he's going to her condo. and t
ms. willis in cash, do you? >> no, sir. >> not a single solitary one. >> not one. >> if you are paid in cash, you spend the cash, but someone's got to have a withdrawal slip. remember, you cannot ask her to those questions. she has had that horde for at least ten years. it is not unusual for clients to come to his law firm and that paying a large of cash. what kind of law firm accepts larger chunks of cash from clients? that kind of guy is prosecuting the presence of the...
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ms. willis? >> that's different. i have gone to a condo in hapeville. >> would you have been there as you indicated for many reasons, right? >> yes, she resided there. went to visit her. maybe went to talk about a document that i received >> you would go to the condo and talk about a document that you received? >> absolutely. >> jesse: were any of the other attorneys visiting fanny's c condo, reviewing documents? >> no, after paying the money to prosecute trump, they traveled the world together. how did they pay for it he put it on his corporate card but don't worry, fanny paid him back, they say in more ways than one. their story is, fanny reimbursed her lover with cash. >> you said in the affidavit that you roughly shared travel, though, correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. so this sharing travel, you're saying she reimbursed you? >> she did. >> where did you deposit the money she reimbursed you? >> it was cash. she didn't give me any checks. >> so all of the vacation that she took she paid you cash for? >> yes, ma'am.
ms. willis? >> that's different. i have gone to a condo in hapeville. >> would you have been there as you indicated for many reasons, right? >> yes, she resided there. went to visit her. maybe went to talk about a document that i received >> you would go to the condo and talk about a document that you received? >> absolutely. >> jesse: were any of the other attorneys visiting fanny's c condo, reviewing documents? >> no, after paying the money to...
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ms. willis. i thought the point of the hearing was an evidence hearing and i was waiting for the evidence. they talked about mr. wade's timesheet and invoices those types of things. none of that came out. i was surprised the judge allowed the salacious testimony. it felt more like a reality show than courtroom proceedings but i was impressed with ms willis. i think she didn't outstanding job. host: the events in georgia are not the only things taking place. when it comes to the hush money trial will start on march 25. mr. trump will have to navigate his courtroom calendar. it was scheduled to begin on march 4 has been postponed in the supreme court may take up an appeal which would push the court back. they denied donald trump's his motion to dismiss. the events in georgia and the focus here today. fani willis testifying yesterday and you can call in (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, for independents (202) 748-8002 in georgia residents. (202) 748-8003. caller: thank yo
ms. willis. i thought the point of the hearing was an evidence hearing and i was waiting for the evidence. they talked about mr. wade's timesheet and invoices those types of things. none of that came out. i was surprised the judge allowed the salacious testimony. it felt more like a reality show than courtroom proceedings but i was impressed with ms willis. i think she didn't outstanding job. host: the events in georgia are not the only things taking place. when it comes to the hush money trial...
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ms. willis denies. it's unclear if willis or wade will testify. they can both seek to quash these subpoenas, but if they do testify they can do so under oath and the hearing will be televised under georgia law. meanwhile, the judge in this case judge scott mcafee also overseeing the conspiracy case has directed ms. willis to respond to the misconduct allegations by friday. these allegations are merely that, allegations. and as of right now they do not change the facts of the actual case against trump. but could it change its outcome? joining me now is anthony michael price, assistitant professor of law at georgia state university. anthony, it's great to see you. thank you for making the time. i know we checked in with you when the case was -- what should we call it? the situation was unfolding down in georgia, and there's since been more evidence produced of the relationship between mr. wade and ms. willis. i wonder what you think happens now in terms of next steps for ms. willis and where judge mcafee may come down on this. >> well, the first thi
ms. willis denies. it's unclear if willis or wade will testify. they can both seek to quash these subpoenas, but if they do testify they can do so under oath and the hearing will be televised under georgia law. meanwhile, the judge in this case judge scott mcafee also overseeing the conspiracy case has directed ms. willis to respond to the misconduct allegations by friday. these allegations are merely that, allegations. and as of right now they do not change the facts of the actual case against...
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ms willis apparently has a tax lien and hadn't paid that off, so i don't know that the testimony was necessarily that bad when we talk about ms years you know, she she did have not a fond partying, i think with ms willis, but she really had is no more reason to lie than ms willis and mr. wade so the judge will have to weigh the credibility of all those people who has the most at stake. remember, even ms willis has acknowledged that mr. wade would come visit her alone in her townhouse where she had moved into majorities town pass during 2021. and so that is before the relationship is alleged to have begun and so that may give the judge some pause to again, i don't know that i can say that today they the defense met their burden, but there's more testimony tomorrow and we'll certainly see if we get into this issue of the lawyer and this text message and he was doing with the defense attorney. apparently, there's some comments in there that she'd like to show and i don't know that that issue has been put too bad yet. >> you will have to look for that. >> laura, there >> was a moment toda
ms willis apparently has a tax lien and hadn't paid that off, so i don't know that the testimony was necessarily that bad when we talk about ms years you know, she she did have not a fond partying, i think with ms willis, but she really had is no more reason to lie than ms willis and mr. wade so the judge will have to weigh the credibility of all those people who has the most at stake. remember, even ms willis has acknowledged that mr. wade would come visit her alone in her townhouse where she...
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ms. willis' fulton county house in the year 2021? reporter: as for the star witness for the defense attorneys, he seemed to have a tough time ever remembering seeing willis and wade together socially. >> did mr. wade, prior to november 1st of 2021, ever talk to you about socializing with ms. willis? >> i can't recall. >> you can't recall? >> you're asking me if he, if he ever mentioned to me that he socialized -- >> ms. willis, correct. >> and i'm saying i cannot recall if he socialized -- if he ever mentioned to we that he socialized. >> reporter: the judge will have to sort through the two days of testimony. a decision is expected in 1-2 weeks. neil, back to you. neil: all right. like we keep saying, so many cases, so little time. what does nikki haley make of all of this? the big south carolina primary a week away from today. we'll talk to her next. just want a low price... you want the lowe's-est price. did you say lowest, or lowe's-est price? it's basically the same thing. if you find a better price somewhere else, we'll match i
ms. willis' fulton county house in the year 2021? reporter: as for the star witness for the defense attorneys, he seemed to have a tough time ever remembering seeing willis and wade together socially. >> did mr. wade, prior to november 1st of 2021, ever talk to you about socializing with ms. willis? >> i can't recall. >> you can't recall? >> you're asking me if he, if he ever mentioned to me that he socialized -- >> ms. willis, correct. >> and i'm saying i...
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ms. willis, when was she sworn in as district attorney?> january 1, 2021. >> did you indicate that there was an incident -- i know you've described it. was that incident on february 3, 2021? >> that's my best recollection. >> my question is after february 3rd of 2021, how much longer did miss willis stay at the house before she moved somewhere else? >> very short period of time. and i cannot be precise, but i would bet all the money i ever made it wasn't more than a month and a half, if that long. >> the best of your recollection, the end of february, beginning of march give or take of 2021 when miss willis would have moved to a different location. >> exactly. >> did miss willis return to the house, the house you were in, at any point in time that you can remember? >> from time to time she and her security might show up for her to pick something up or take something or something. but she always would come with her security. >> my question was poorly worded. did she come back permanently to her house? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. >> a
ms. willis, when was she sworn in as district attorney?> january 1, 2021. >> did you indicate that there was an incident -- i know you've described it. was that incident on february 3, 2021? >> that's my best recollection. >> my question is after february 3rd of 2021, how much longer did miss willis stay at the house before she moved somewhere else? >> very short period of time. and i cannot be precise, but i would bet all the money i ever made it wasn't more than a...
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ms. willis admitted to this relationship.d she be disqualified from leaving this case against donald trump and associates? -- leading this case? >> it doesn't seem so from a legal standpoint. the defense seems to be arguing the relationship has caused or leads to a conflict of interest but it is sort of difficult to see in what way -- it's not like an obvious conflict of interest say if a lawyer is having an improper relationship with a judge. then there is a problem the judge might be biased. >> it raises questions about willis and this being one of the top prosecutors on the case. if she were to be disqualified, this case is considered one of the most significant facing the former president. what would it mean for the possibility of the trial going forward? it was proposed to go forward in august. >> if she's disqualified, there's little chance the case would proceed before the election because things have been moving slowly in georgia with trying to reassign prosecutors. things have been lingering over a year. it would be
ms. willis admitted to this relationship.d she be disqualified from leaving this case against donald trump and associates? -- leading this case? >> it doesn't seem so from a legal standpoint. the defense seems to be arguing the relationship has caused or leads to a conflict of interest but it is sort of difficult to see in what way -- it's not like an obvious conflict of interest say if a lawyer is having an improper relationship with a judge. then there is a problem the judge might be...
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former client had with fani willis. >> he was asked that precise question whether nathan wade and him were still friends at the time that he communicated with the attorney, ms merchant, who is the one leading this motion disqualify fani willis in the office he had a really long pregnant pause and then he said, yes, we were friends and you could feel the weight of that moment. why? because he's in a very tough position. only as an attorney who has been here having to be compelled to really testify here today. but also because he was aware that the nature of the communications from ms merchant's was about fact-gathering, and he had information that he was willing to relay. now the credibility thing comes in here, jake, because he is now saying on the stand today that he didn't really have any basis for the things he was saying he was speculating. but do you know he was asked by one of the attorneys did you lie to ms merchant when you said these things about the relationship, whether there were things like did nathan wade have a garage door opener to fani willis's private home or office, whether they had sex in this facility or not, whether they were momentous
former client had with fani willis. >> he was asked that precise question whether nathan wade and him were still friends at the time that he communicated with the attorney, ms merchant, who is the one leading this motion disqualify fani willis in the office he had a really long pregnant pause and then he said, yes, we were friends and you could feel the weight of that moment. why? because he's in a very tough position. only as an attorney who has been here having to be compelled to really...
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ms. willis. in a legal filing two weeks ago d.a. willis admitted to having a relationship with mr. saying it began only after she hired mr. wade to work on this case in 2022. now, today's hearing began with an explosive allegation from a former friend of d.a. willis who claimed willis has lied about when the relationship began. >> you have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect from 2019 to the last time you spoke with her? >> no doubt. >> did you observe them do things that are common among people having a romantic relationship? >> yes. >> such as? can you give us an example? >> hugging, kissing, just affection. >> that was a balk shell of the morning. fani willis and nathan wade potentially lied to the court in their filings about when their relationship began. the rest of the hearing mostly revolved around the question did fani willis benefit financially from her relationship with nathan wade? mr. wade was next to take the stand, and he told the court in no uncertain terms that fani willis was not the kind of date that let you pick up the tab. >> if you've ever
ms. willis. in a legal filing two weeks ago d.a. willis admitted to having a relationship with mr. saying it began only after she hired mr. wade to work on this case in 2022. now, today's hearing began with an explosive allegation from a former friend of d.a. willis who claimed willis has lied about when the relationship began. >> you have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect from 2019 to the last time you spoke with her? >> no doubt. >> did you observe them...
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ms. willis has acted in a lot of ways hypocritically. years ago saying that she thought it was terrible when people dated their employees. look what she has been doing with partisanship and obviously inappropriateness, with the way she has conducted herself not in this hearing yesterday but in this whole situation. that being said though, the burden is on the defense to produce evidence that demonstrates an actual conflict or an appearance of one. >> that's a pretty high burden. and if it comes down to a friend saying something versus ms. willis and mr. wade, it's unclear to me how the judge is going to rule here. >> brian: interesting. and then, if nothing else, they are definitely sullied as they move on with this case. >> oh, for sure. >> brian: let's talk about robert hur's report. it's been pilloried. the department of justice stood up for robert hur after him taking a series of verbal beatdowns from the white house, from the president himself. and now we find out that he is going to be testifying in a couple of weeks in front of co
ms. willis has acted in a lot of ways hypocritically. years ago saying that she thought it was terrible when people dated their employees. look what she has been doing with partisanship and obviously inappropriateness, with the way she has conducted herself not in this hearing yesterday but in this whole situation. that being said though, the burden is on the defense to produce evidence that demonstrates an actual conflict or an appearance of one. >> that's a pretty high burden. and if it...
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ms. willis, we will take five minutes. be back in five. >> all right, we are back on the record before we proceed, though, advise everyone here this being a room mostly full of lawyers who have spent their lives in and out of a courtroom, we all know what professional looks like, what the quorum looks like and devoting ourselves to the rule of law and proper advocacy i would urge everyone to keep those principles into mind starting with the fact that we won't talk over each other and from there, we will get through this. ms. merchant. >> thank you, judge. how often did mr. wade visit you at a place where you were living between 2019 and 2021? >> you want to start with the lie that he lived with me in south fulton, a home he's never been to. that's one lie you told in your document. no. >> judge, i didn't ask her about that. >> ms. merchant, i want you to ask a precise question. i think she's saying he didn't live with her. >> never. you put in your -- no, while we are talking about professionalism. she pu in 3 different do
ms. willis, we will take five minutes. be back in five. >> all right, we are back on the record before we proceed, though, advise everyone here this being a room mostly full of lawyers who have spent their lives in and out of a courtroom, we all know what professional looks like, what the quorum looks like and devoting ourselves to the rule of law and proper advocacy i would urge everyone to keep those principles into mind starting with the fact that we won't talk over each other and from...
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ms. willis begin? >> 2022. >> did you go with d.a. willis to aruba in 2022? >> i did. >> thank you. and you paid for that trip using your business credit card, correct? >> i did. >> they went back and forth on a lot of details that we don't have to show you in full about the finances, about the money, the discussion of cash, i'll show you a little bit more on that later, because the defense lawyers are trying to make some kind of argument that beyond the potential misstatement or false testimony, which, again, hasn't been proven, but that beyond that, they also want to argue there might be some sort of financial misconduct here. all of this, of course, is about something larger. none of this would be under discussion if there wasn't a racketeering indictment against the former president and many of his aides, some of whom already confessed and pled out because of an illegal plot to steal the election, which focused on georgia, among others, and we're speaking about this at a time where -- awaits a reckoning that involves alleged election misconduct. the original one of his first tim
ms. willis begin? >> 2022. >> did you go with d.a. willis to aruba in 2022? >> i did. >> thank you. and you paid for that trip using your business credit card, correct? >> i did. >> they went back and forth on a lot of details that we don't have to show you in full about the finances, about the money, the discussion of cash, i'll show you a little bit more on that later, because the defense lawyers are trying to make some kind of argument that beyond the...
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ms.. willis's house in south fulton county? occasionally. i've never gone to her house in south fulton county. i've never gone to her house and have never seen her house. you've never gone to a condo in either the east point or hateful area with ms.. willis. that's different. i have gone to a condo in haiti. >> you would have been there, as you indicated, for many reasons, right? yes. in this year to resided there, i went to visit her, maybe went to talk about a document that i received. of the condo and everybody knocking at that, you see? >> absolutely. were any of the other attorneys visiting fanny's condo reviewing documents now? just wait. after fannie paid 700 grand to prosecute trump, fannie and wade traveled the world together. how did they pay for these romantic trips together? >> we put it on his corporate card. don't worry. fannie paid them back. they say, in more ways than one. >> their story is fannie reimbursed her lover with cash. >> you said in the affidavit that you roughly shared travel there, correct? yes, ma'am. okay. so
ms.. willis's house in south fulton county? occasionally. i've never gone to her house in south fulton county. i've never gone to her house and have never seen her house. you've never gone to a condo in either the east point or hateful area with ms.. willis. that's different. i have gone to a condo in haiti. >> you would have been there, as you indicated, for many reasons, right? yes. in this year to resided there, i went to visit her, maybe went to talk about a document that i received....
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ms. willis' house in 2021? >> never. >> did mr.k to you about socializing with ms. willis? >> i can't recall. >> did you know they were dating? >> no, i did not. >> the defense lawyer cited text messages from wade's lawyer which allegedly discussed people knowing about the relationship starting earlier. the reason why that would matter is that it would appear to contradict willis' testimony and affidavit. but the reference, i'm speaking slowly and carefully, the reference to those texts may still be covered by attorney/client privilege which might mean they won't be evidence in the case. what i can tell you is there are at least conflicting accounts of some of the details that may or may not lead the judge to decide whether there was a conflict here. i'm joined by j. tom morgan. welcome. >> good evening from the south, ari. hope everything is doing well in new york. >> you know, we don't see regions around here. is that the right way to put it? i'm just kidding. let's start with the testimony and by the end we can ask what your vie
ms. willis' house in 2021? >> never. >> did mr.k to you about socializing with ms. willis? >> i can't recall. >> did you know they were dating? >> no, i did not. >> the defense lawyer cited text messages from wade's lawyer which allegedly discussed people knowing about the relationship starting earlier. the reason why that would matter is that it would appear to contradict willis' testimony and affidavit. but the reference, i'm speaking slowly and carefully,...
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ms. willis that they didn't -- they split everything.e's a whole issue about, you know, is it credible? because there's an issue of he paid times, she paid at times, and she says i repaid in cash and i didn't use venmo or zelle or any sort of app. but there is no contrary evidence. so to my mind, what i'm looking for is will there be contrary evidence to that issue, the finance issue presented by the defense? because that's why we're here. >> right, so charles we're going to hear from this terrence bradley, who's a former divorce lawyer for nathan wade, also former business partner for nathan wade. they've worked out the attorney/client privilege issues that were all tangling things up yesterday at the start of the hearing, if you are michael roman's attorney who brought this allegation forward and are trying to get the case dismissed on all of this, what needs to happen today? >> michael roman did everything he could being the cyber sleuth he is to try ask basically extract information from mr. wade's divorce proceedings to try and lead
ms. willis that they didn't -- they split everything.e's a whole issue about, you know, is it credible? because there's an issue of he paid times, she paid at times, and she says i repaid in cash and i didn't use venmo or zelle or any sort of app. but there is no contrary evidence. so to my mind, what i'm looking for is will there be contrary evidence to that issue, the finance issue presented by the defense? because that's why we're here. >> right, so charles we're going to hear from...