ms. wilson? commissioner wynns: on page 116, says it, the board, may, by a 2/3 vote, limit or close its debate provided that the maker of the motion and opponent of the motion are granted equal time for closing comments. have you not taught me that motions to end debate are not debatable? >> put on your mic. >> you're correct. but if this is their rule, it supersedes roberts, which says that there's no debate. commissioner wynns: so the question is do we want to adopt something other school school ss use that allow closing comments or just follow roberts rules as we have in the past and not allow debate on ending debate. i don't care. president yee: commissioner wynns, you can make an amendment or recommendation? >> if i may, this is from p120, not from csba. commissioner wynns: so this is ours? we've never followed our rules. this is the only area where that's rules. in that case, since we've not followed this and always operated the other way, i just say we should say the board by 2/3 vote shou

ms. condon? >> chairman wilson i'm nothing going to answer this proek cooley. my job, fix arlington for veterans and loved ones. the decision where organize arrington is placed, all i can tell you if it is transferred you will have a fixed, much improved arlington. >> thank you all, and we now proceed to the ranking members susan davis of san diego, california. >> thank you. to you, general vangiel, if were you to give arlington a grade right now, what would that be? >> i got a chance to go down and essentially talk to some people, and i've looked at some past reports. i haven't had a chance to look at it in-depth like i'm going to do with the inspection team as we go down. what i can say is that being deployed for the past two years, as i heard what was going on at arlington, i'd have to give them a zero. when we -- with what i heard. i have to be honest with you, because it's just not somethi something -- it was inconceivable that that was happening, because what i saw was, they were a very respectful ceremony, everything seemed to be going well. i will say,

ms. martin. we now have mr. brian lepore. >> thank you, mr. chairman. chairman wilson, ranking member davis, chairman whitman and ranking member cooper and members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today to present our findings from our review of oversight and management of arlington national cemetery. as you know, we issued our report on the management and oversight of arlington on december 15th of last year. my testimony is based on our report, and i will make two points today. first, i'll discuss the policies and procedures that the current leadership team at arlington put in place to begin to address the deficiencies that became apparent, and i'll identify some of our recommendations to assist in that endeavor and secondly discuss factor that could potentially affect the feasibility and advisability of transferring arlington from the army to the department of veterans affairs. the v.a. here's the bottom line -- i think it is fair to say the current leadership team at arlington has taken many positive steps at the cemetery curre

ms. martin. we now have mr. bryan. >> thank you. churn and wilson, a ranking member davis, chairman whitman and ranking member cooper and members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today to present our findings from our review of oversight and management of arlington national cemetery. we issue our report on the management and oversight of arlington on december 15th of last year. my testimony is based on our report, and i will make two points today. first i will discuss the policies and procedures the current leadership at arlington has put into place to begin to address these deficiencies that became apparent, and i will identify some of our recommendations to help assist that endeavor and second, i will discuss some factors that could potentially affect the feasibility and advisability of transferring arlington from the army to the department of veterans affairs, the va. here's the bottomline. i think it is fair to say the current leadership team at arlington has taken any positive steps at the cemetery to addr

ms. kathryn condon who is the executive director of the army's national cemeteries program. and so general, thank you for beginning. >> chairman wilson, ranking member davis, chairman whitman, ranking member cooper and distinguished members of the subcommittees, thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today and for your oversight and support over the past 18 months. it has made a difference at arlington national cemetery. since assuming the duties of the army inspector general in november, i have reviewed our previous inspections, met with the executive director and here team and other stakeholders involved in directing deficiencies found at arlington. to fully appreciate the progress one only has to review the 2010 i.g. report identifying 61 deficiencies. among them, deplorable organizational climate, archaic recordkeeping and automation system, uncontrolled contracting and budgets processes, significant problems with grave site accountability. in contrast, you may recall from general mccoy's testimony that the 2011 i.g. report identified no deficiencies and noticed significant progress at the cemetery largely due to the cours