ms. wong informed me that those item would not be heard today, seats 4 and 5, because they had not been posted on the web for sfgov for 10 days. so, i told applicants that because you had to submit your application within a certain time period, i understood miss wong -- unless i misunderstood her -- because the vacancy notification wasn't on the web 10 days -- >> can you speak on the mic? >> yes, sorry. because the agency notification wasn't on the web 10 days prior to today's date, which is the 18th, so, wasn't there on the eighth, that people weren't eligible to apply for seats 4 and 5. >> ms. wong? >> mr. chair, the vacancy notice was posted on march 28, 2013, and it was my understanding that it was communicated to ms. casey. >> the notifications were quite a while, but that was only for seats 2 and 6. the first time that i saw it up was on april 9th and that's when i circulated it. i'm not opposing the candidate, but i'm just letting you know -- usually this item there are several people a