ms. zumatto? >> i would say well be a certainly has many doctors and experts they don't corner the market. there lots of people in the civilian community who could bring new ideas research and other possibilities. to say we shouldn't be considering public-private partnerships i think would be a serious mistake. >> thank you all for your answers. >> thank you very much mr. brown. do you have any other questions? no sir thank you for this hearing. >> thank you very much for being here. we appreciate it. expect questions to the second panel post hearing questions and to the first panel. there are some issues we were not able to bring up given the time that mr. secretary thank you for staying through the entire budget hearing and without a request that all members have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks could without objection so ordered. this hearing is adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] thursday in the u.s. senate members --

ms. diane zumatto national legislative director of amvets. we are also going to be having testimony from mr. en's de planque legislative director of the american legion. mr. blake you are now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman and members of the committee. on behalf of the co-authors of the independent budget seated at the table, i would like to thank you for the opportunity to testify on the 2016/2017 budget. we ask that our report of independent budget for the department of veterans affairs for fiscal year 2016 and 2017 be admitted into the official hearing record. >> without objection. >> thank you mr. chairman. let me begin by saying we believe this is probably the best va budget we have seen in my years being up here on the hill. that being said recent media reports have pointed out that va's have hundreds of millions of dollars in resources carried over in recent years. the va has done a questionable job of managing resources that have been given in the past that we believe the axis problems in the long waiting lists