same thing with msnbc news.so it's been exciting being a part of the process. >> host: and bringing your own perspective you think? >> guest: bringing not only my own perspective but in a lot of cases the perspective of a vast chunk of america whose perspective sometimes don't get into the newsrooms in manhattan. and getting actively getting e-mails from news executives during the past campaign saying hey, i1 you to know that news story that ran last night, without me planning about it, we think it was biased, too, and we are constantly working to get more -- i hear that actually from all network executives and a lot of, a lot of newspapers, too. so it's nice being a strange man in a strange land. ..

and you know, you really can make this up is so -- there's a commentator on msnbc who said that when he heard it barack obama speak he got a thrill running up his leg. [laughter] commentators are allowed to comment, but this is an commentary, this is a man crashed. [laughter] [applause] the same commentator when on "the tonight show" and said, if you are actually in the room when obama gives one of his speeches and you don't cry, you are not american. now, while we're on the subject of msnbc, when sarah palin was announced as a republican vice-presidential nominee, this was on msnbc during the day, not on one of the nighttime commentary shows, a graphic way up on the screen as she was being announced as the candidate and is said -- breaking news: how many houses will sarah palin add to the republican ticket price this is when it john mccain was asked. this was in on the jon stewart make believe, the news show. , this was on msnbc of division of nbc news. during the day. again, not during one of the commentary shows. then there was a article in newsweek in which they said barack obama

guest: msnbc, please. [laughter] caller: i am sorry.ave been living in this country for many years. i was a hillary clinton supporter. we have a family that debates hotly in politics. by switched over to obama, persuaded by my daughters. guest: a common story, by the way. children convincing their parents did. caller: it did not take that much convincing. following hillary clinton's statements, moving over to obama, it brought back memories of how very much i was going for mrs. clinton. then obama came up. i had not heard of him that much. i had to catch up on a lot of reading. i am looking forward to reading your book, sir. host: why secretary of state and not vice president? guest: he said very early on that he had picture for that job before the primaries were over -- picked her for that job before the primaries were over. she was never seriously considered for vice president. the conversation boiled down to senator clinton saying that i do not want to go through vetting unless you are serious about meeting the job. there was plenty

host: one color touched on msnbc -- health care continues to dominate headlines this week as we awaitome legislation on the hill. activists are targeting democrats. here is a line from "the washington post." and says the sniping among liberals might jeopardize votes needed to pass the bill. in the high-stakes battle, a growing cadre of liberal activists is aiming its sharpest firepower against democratic senators who they accused of being insufficiently committed to the cause. the tax branch from toward news releases to full-fledged advertising campaigns. they have elicited rebuttals from lawmakers and sparked a debate inside the party. that is the lead story there. we want to tell you about our newsmaker program today as congressman from indiana is on. it will be at 10:00 a.m. today and again at 6:00 p.m. on this network. he is the house republican conference chairman the talks about health care and other issues. >> republicans have been championing public performer over private health care insurance program for as many years as i have been in congress. health savings accounts where

i still am the token conservative at msnbc. and so i would get calls from the 50 second floor from 30 rock say you need to be more conservative. gibney, i remember the calls. give me more. more. my god, what do you want me to do passout? do you want me to pass out? i can't give more. but they wanted more. they want is a this or balkanization that i saw on tv. and my wife would be on the back door when i would come home for my primetime show and she would you share at me and she would shake her head and say, you jackass. and then turn around and go to bed. [laughter] >> i would smile because i knew that she had a very good point. i was, in fact, a jackass and i played one on tv. so in 2004 after playing a jackass on tv for a couple of years i wrote a book called rove wasn't burnt in a day. and in this book i decided to tell the truth about the republican party, that the republican party promised less government but was in fact spinning at such reckless rate and forgetting all the promises that we've made to get elected in 1994,

he is a frequent commentator on msnbc appearing most often with keith olberman and chris matthews. to find out more, go to newsweek.com. ..

i've been following you through cnbc. >> guest: msnbc. it's okay. >> caller: i'm sorry. i am not a democrat however, i have been living here so many years and they may clinton supporter and have a family happily debating in politics and i switched over to obama after i was persuaded by my daughter overseas. >> guest: which is a common story by the way. children convincing their parents to switchover is common through the story. please go ahead. >> caller: i was just as convinced falling hillary clinton and the statements and the obama but i was falling over the phone and it brought back memories, how very much i was going for missing hillary and then obama came up and i haven't heard of him that much and i had to catch up on a lot of reading and i am looking forward to reading your book, sir. >> guest: thank you. >> host: y secretaries date and not vice president? >> guest: president obama told me in the oval office, i interviewed him early on and he said he picked her before the primaries were over and there is an interesting point he didn't consider her for vice presid

i expect msnbc to be a rapidly left-wing channel. i am sure that james expects fox to be very right wing. >> in most countries, it is a labor paper and a tory paper. it is this or that that may be fine. we also know for a fact that this whole industry is changing by the day. the chicago drop-in, "the los angeles times, "the new york times, is not like it is the same period the speaker made a point that when you were our age, you can go -- right now co. the big change i see -- >> none of them think they will be our age. . i am from nebraska. what do you guys think is the biggest lesson you can take away from the academy? >> challenge yourself and critically think about all of the important issues of the day. it beyond your biases. >> just accept the role. there is a role for everyone. >> stay informed, know what is going on and know how things work. you will be casting a wise vote. them i will ask the three of you to give short responses on what the biggest thing you personally will take away from your involvement with this program? >

, and he has testified before congress as well as appeared on programs on nbc, cbs, fox, cnbc, and msnbc, commentaries have been published in a major newspaper including the "washington times," "beat san diego tribune," the american -- "the american standard." mr. rockwell has been involved directly with nuclear power for 20 years. he started in 1943. he was in the elite task force at the atomic bomb project in tennessee. he became head of the radiation shield engineering group. then a navy captain hired him to work on the naval nuclear propulsion program, and he has a long list of accomplishments there. he is a fellow of the american nuclear society, recipient of the first lifetime contribution award, now known as the rockwell award, distinguished medals from the navy and u.s. atomic energy commission and a member of the national academy of engineers. he has written numerous books on technical papers, including the widely-used design manual -- how one man made a difference and created the new world. stories and images from the dawn of the atomic age. we are very glad to have you, sir. n

with it being this ambivalent why do think it is not front- page news on the major papers and msnbc when they made such a big deal out of it for a year and it is probably still on going? why is it no longer news? thank you. guest: it is a very good question. i do not think it is up to the news media to decide what business. to me the missing element here -- to decide what is new span of the missing element is congressional involvement. in the past administration we had a very assertive, energetic executive branch. we had a passive, compliant legislature, though. what i think is required is a probing, energetic inquiry on the part of congress conducted primarily in public into all of these programs, warrantless surveillance, prisoner interrogations, the decision to go to war. not necessarily in a hall style -- not necessarily in a hostile, prosecutorial style, but to learn the lessons of history and understand what is going on. host: california, hello on our independent mind. caller: thank you. the word secrecy is quite interesting. i do not know why the united states is throwing such a b

msnbc, fox -- the leading question every night is what is the president going to do about this? they lead the ignore public to get involved in things bigger than they are. it has already cost us so much money in other parts of that area. it is the media here who feeds on ignorance of the populace to lead them into situations. i think they should do what they're doing and iron it out, but not get us directly involved. thank you. guest: you know, i do think anyway real change comes to any country from within that country. i do understand the new i myself and and it iranian- american. anything that goes on in this country deeply affects me. i am as concerned as any other american. i am speaking to not just s and irani. this is the only country in the world where people carry their past with them. -- i'm not just and running. that is why this country become so expensive and in need. -- so and expansive

. >> on the visitor's log issue, while the policy is under review you have denied to requests from msnbc and then was quoted by nbc -- and as nbc say that in essence there should be the right to hold secret meetings in the white house and give a few examples when that might be needed. is it the position of the white house that you need to hold secret meetings on occasions here, and us -- >> i think there are obviously occasions in which to the president is going to meet privately with advisers on topics that are of great national importance, yes. >> so then how does that square with a policy that we reached that might end up in a visitor logs? >> again, let me not concluded their review that is under way. >> secondly, -- >> i don't have one. i will see if they have one. >> cnn is reporting -- >> is this two or three? >> just want. [laughter] can i just want big microphone or one big question? >> both. cnn reported the state department officials are working with a twitter and other social networks to keep communications open with iran. is that something the white house is involved with? >

i hear all the pundits on msnbc and other networks all questioning how the republican party is going to rebuild. we need to stick to our beliefs, and the democrats will put us back in power again. host: we will get a response. thank you, george. guest: i do not disagree with you, sir. on the occasions that we disagree, particularly on social issues, we have to be a little more tolerant of these opinions comedies difficult, controversial decisions. but at the end of the -- on these opinions, these difficult, controversial decisions. historically the republican party bed rock was of limited government, reminding people that the government has no money of its own. the dollar's government uses come out of your pocket and my and everybody else's. with limited government, ethical government, a competent government, we have a difference historically on the issue of military and support for the defense establishment. there are bedrock principles that we cannot amend it -- that we cannot abandon because they are republican principles. they do provide a contrast with the democratic party. what

i really enjoy your appearances on msnbc. and i have one question, and one favor to ask. guest: go ahead. caller: the question is throughout the course of presidential politics, starting nixon, i realize dirty tricks is something done in politics since time in memorial. but i became aware of politics during the nixon election. but there was a mention of one perned called donald segretti. then the next suck saysor was lee atwatter who had a come upance at the end. and then there was karl rove. again, these people must be bread out in the bushes somewhere. and i'm wondering, who is the next turd blossom? who is the next one in line who is out there in some little institute waiting to be tacked by some new presidential? now, the favor i need to ask of you, and this is a very important one. during your process of interviewing nominees in the next presidential election, anyone who comes up with a whole process of saying they're religious and like a hucka by or a palin, would you please, ask them one question for me. do they believe in the rapture? i would love to hear the answ

correspondent for cbs news also covered capitol hill for both cbs and nbc and anchored political coverage for msnbche was an invited reporter on the iraq war and filed stories on the war on terror worldwide. last but not least don wolfensberger director of project woodrow wilson center in washington is a well known, chris scholar and author of congress and the people and former chief of staff and longtime hill maysan chief of staff of house rules committee. we are when to begin with a brief opening comments starting with terry at the end and work our way down, and brief opening statements by the guests and then q&a exchange between the guests if they have any follow-up statements they want to make after each of them has their chants and finally q&a from the audience but there will be time for q&a from the audience and we look forward to your participation. you can either sit or come of here as you wish. terrie? >> i'm happy to sit. is the rest of the panel happy to sit? let's sit here and get all right, good. thank you. thank you,

msnbc declared a winner at 11:54 p.m. the first of the broadcast networks, abc, didn't declare a winner until 12:02 a.m. are you going to decide which network you're going to watch? on the basis of the fact that that network went on the air two minutes earlier than another one? yet it is a priority in this business that is as high as any. final question. yours, sir. >> an observation and you can treat it as a question or respond to it. and that has to do actually with this gentleman touched on it, that i taught journalism for about 20 years, and -- >> at -- >> i was going to say, helped to put out the high school newspaper, award-winning newspaper. from the columbia press high school association. for pane years. -- for pane years and there was the theory and there is the practice. the theory of journalism, and i think its practice in academia is to tell the difference between the different kinds of reporting features, news stories. difference between a news story and where the opinions should be. so why do we find, and we

on an msnbc talk show with tucker carlson six months after the trip ibrahim cooper claimed, quote, to my knowledge we don't take money from the government of saudi arabia, end of quote. i want to make it clear, it's important to understand american muslims are entitled to organize, advocate and engage in a political process. such are the makings of a vibrant democracy. they have taken advantage of the opportunity america provides for every background. they are teachers, doctors, policemen. they are mothers and fathers and neighbors. i am reminded of a young pakistani american who is muslim that i had the privilege of meeting during one of my visits to walter reed hospital. i met him when he was in the midst of his physical therapy, therapy that was necessary because he had both lost legs while in combat in iraq. despite his tremendous sacrifice, he was committed to the hard work of rehabilitation in part because he hoped to go back to iraq. he was a patriot of the cause that ought to make us proud. i want to be clear that the concerns i have with care are with the organization and not

host: of p i know you are heading downstairs -- or upstairs, msnbc, but they will likely ask you about the situation in south carolina did what is your response to gov. sanford as now former head of the republican governors association? guest: look, i think the people in this country rightfully hold their elected officials to higher standards. i think in his remarks yesterday, gov. sanford address that, he apologized. but i just have my thoughts and fears focused on his family right now. host: finally, if you were to run for president in 2012, what would you take into account, and have you thought? if he were to run for president? guest: not sure about the question there, i am not intending to run for president, -- host: your name has been mentioned. guest: of this country is facing -- whoever is the candid it on our side of the aisle -- and, you know, we as a party i think have now sort of position ourselves

joe scarborough this morning on msnbc said that he has seen nothing but unbridled glee on the part of democrats to the governor. it was like they are communicating, this is payback for what happened to bill clinton. no matter what happened in the past to president clinton, this is now how we respond to it is important. i think i a also have witnessed this unbridled glee -- bill press, i heard him on, i think it was cnn the other day, and he said that he was giggling over this whole affair because he was delighted to see that something like this was happening now to republicans. so i would like to say to the media, what the governor did is certainly an example which is very poor character and the way you are responding to it is not any better. " but the question we're asking is, the private lives of public officials -- host: of the question we're asking is the private lives of public officials. senator john ensign, republican from nevada who admitted to an affair last week and senator john edwards spoke on abc's light 9 -- nightline program last summer and former governor of new york s

not only on msnbc but fox are anybody, they are showing the courtesy because he was married to her, but this gentleman was a big reason, in my opinion, why the economy full of the way it did. host: i will ask a question to john taylor for served in the bush administration is here to talk about the fed. thank you for your call and your observations. two other headlines from another tweet your phone call. the newspaper -- dams ignore obama cut. congressional democrats are largely ignoring president obama's $19.8 billion in budget cuts. the present proposed axing dozens of programs that is said or inefficient or ineffective. but members of the house appropriations committee are including more money for them. according to "the washington times" is the story but senator patrick leahy courting a challenge. as chair of that senate judiciary committee. at one point, of the 19 men and women who sit on the committee, six are prosecutors come a dynamic

whereas, in an msnbc interview speaker pelosi said, they never told us that these enhanced interrogation techniques were being used. whereas speaker pelosi's public statements alleged a sustained pattern of deception by government intelligence officers charged by law with informing congress about the agency's activities. whereas when asked at a press conference on may 15, 2009, widely reported by the news media, madam speaker, just to be clear, you accusing c.i.a. of lying to you on september and speaker pelosi stated, yes. whereas during the same press conference -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. members, please take their conversations off the floor. the gentleman from utah. mr. bishop: whereas during the same press conference the speaker subsequently stated, so, yes, i am saying there are misleading, the c.i.a. was misleading congress. and further, they mislead us all the time and they misrepresent it every step of the way. whereas a memorandum released on may 15, 2009, the c.i.a. director said it is not our policy or practice to mislead congress. that is against o

whereas in an msnbc interview on february 25, 2009, speaker pelosi stated, i can say flat out they never told us that these enhanced interrogation techniques were being used. whereas speaker pelosi's public statements allege a sustained pattern of deception by government intelligence officers charged by law with informing congress about the agency's activities. whereas when asked at a press conference on may 15, 2009, why threported -- widelyeported by the news media, madam speaker, just to be clear, you're accusing the c.i.a. of lying to you in september, speaker pelosi stated yes. whereas during the same press conference the speaker subsequently stated, so, yes, i'm saying they are misleading. the c.i.a. was misleading the congress and further they misled us all the time and they misrepresented every step of the way. >> mr. speaker. the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. the house will be in order. the clerk may proceed. the clerk: whereas in a memorandum to c.i.a. employees released publicly, leon panetta, the c.i.a. director, stated, it is not o