muammar gaddafi was worried he was going to be next, after the bush administration overthrew saddam husseiney were coming after him. the bush and ministration were floating that out. they had a hit list and gaddafi was on it and assad. i would inspect -- and spent three weeks in libya. muammar gaddafi was right. everything he predicted came true to a tee. amy: did he talked about what would happen to him? , andvery interesting thing one of the interviews, it was honest my last question to him, cut a platitude i said, how would you like to be remembered? he was so arrogant about his position in libya. i hopeted saying, well, to be remembered as selfless, that i gave to my people, these kind of throw away answers. then he paused for a second, he chuckled and leaned remain and leaned hope this is just towards me and said, i hope this is true. he had -- i don't think he had overlue what was coming, and over again, i don't think posting the correct, up until mubarak had toi resign, i don't think he thought he was going to go. but there are so inoculated, that they just really lost touch with rea

-backed military intervention ousted longtime dictator muammar gaddafi in 2011. so-called unity government is one of three competing governments that claim legitimacy in libya. joining us from washington phyllis bennis, fellow at the , institute for policy studies. author of "understanding isis and the new global war on terror." welcome back to democracy now! we don't have much time, but can you talk about what has just taken place, the u.s. bombing libya? >> certainly hearing all of the news about the khans and their extraordinary story, we're reminded of the price that is paid in this country for the continuing wars, the global war on terror as george bush used to call it, president obama wants to call it something else but it is the same war. this is a significant escalation. the airstrikes in libya were aimed at the isis forces that remain in the city of sirte. city now of about 80,000 people. we have had no reports of who else might have been injured or killed in the strikes, what is happened to the civilian population. it is as if there is no one there, but

in october of 2002, i interviewed the market of the -- muammar gaddafi, four or five months before the invasion of iraq happened. i asked him if the american invasion went forward, who would benefit. and moammar can duffy, he -- moammar gadhafi, he had this aura of like a philosopher king. question,ed him that his answer was instantaneous. "oh some of bin laden, -- "oh osama bin laden, he will benefit. most prescienthe things that has ever been said about the american invasion in iraq. kay is in missouri, and independent. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i believe we live in a fractured land ourselves in the united states. if you are familiar at all with the daily life of being poor and elderly or poor and any age in a rural, small-town america, we need three things for the m people here to wake up -- for the young people here to wake up to a different life tomorrow. that is we need national public health care with special provision for the elderly so that families are not pulverized when their elderly need care. free, asducation to be was called for by you know who.

in october of 2002, i interviewed the market of the -- muammar gaddafi, four or five months before thenvasion of iraq happened. i asked him if the american invasion went forward, who would benefit. and moammar can duffy, he -- moammar gadhafi, he had this aura of like a philosopher king. question,ed him that his answer was instantaneous. "oh some of bin laden, -- "oh osama bin laden, he will benefit. most prescienthe things that has ever been said about the american invasion in iraq. kay is in missouri, and independent. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i believe we live in a fractured land ourselves in the united states. if you are familiar at all with the daily life of being poor and elderly or poor and any age in a rural, small-town america, we need three things for the m people here to wake up -- for the young people here to wake up to a different life tomorrow. that is we need national public health care with special provision for the elderly so that families are not pulverized when their elderly need care. free, asducation to be was called for by you know who. a