>> president mubak istill one of them. he was still their boss until one week ago, we could say. their fear of turning against him, as they see it as an act of loyalty. for 30 years now, they have been his close associates, and they really do not have the guts, the will, to do away with him. it is extremely important that the american president made it clear that this is now really time for a change in egypt. there is an envoy from the united states presently in cairo. >> the united states has changed its rhetoric on mubarak. do you think that will make a difference? >> yes, i think it is very important on a psychological level. there is a question of what to do with a bargain when to move against him. the more pressure that comes from the outside, the more difficult it will be for the supporters for him to plan for m to stain oice. it ve good that the americans did that, a little bit too late in my view, but, nevertheless, mr. obama did the right thing. we will see if the european leaders are willing to follow. >> thank you very much. we will wind up the day's events in egypt. t