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that mueller talked about. that's a profound issue that as far as i can tell is completely unresolved within the democratic caucus. >> as a law enforcement member, what do you think? is it better to have a clean ukraine focused impeachment, even though it's a political decision not a law enforcement one, or do you think expanded to include the previous allegations of obstruction of justice. >> i have great respect for the work of the special counsel team. i think that the report is clearly, lays out at least eight different categories of obstructive activity in which the team concluded that they've met all elements of the offense with the evidence before them. however, dragging that into this impeachment effort opens the door to every defense that the republicans and the president have successfully and i think effectively laid out there in response to the mueller report. so you leave the realm of the simple and the clear-cut and you really, i think, open a can of worms that the democrats will have a hard time a
that mueller talked about. that's a profound issue that as far as i can tell is completely unresolved within the democratic caucus. >> as a law enforcement member, what do you think? is it better to have a clean ukraine focused impeachment, even though it's a political decision not a law enforcement one, or do you think expanded to include the previous allegations of obstruction of justice. >> i have great respect for the work of the special counsel team. i think that the report is...
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the mueller report was an amuse bouche. after months, in fact years, of eluding, threatening, in some cases promising to impeach the president, the main course has officially arrived. this week speaker of the house nancy pelosi formally asked that articles of impeachment be brought against president trump. >> today i'm asking to proceed with articles of impeachment. >>> next month, the senate will ultimately decide on whether to impeach a president. as filling as this all may have been, it's what comes after the meal that matters most -- the bill. that's right. there was always going to be a political cost to impeachment. it's just a question of who will end up paying? of course there's the possibility that president trump ends up paying the lion's share. these hearings in which career civil servants and trump appointees shared their serious concerns and the facts of the case that trump abused his office for his own political gain, have undoubtedly damaged the president. republicans were left floundering, and probably for t
the mueller report was an amuse bouche. after months, in fact years, of eluding, threatening, in some cases promising to impeach the president, the main course has officially arrived. this week speaker of the house nancy pelosi formally asked that articles of impeachment be brought against president trump. >> today i'm asking to proceed with articles of impeachment. >>> next month, the senate will ultimately decide on whether to impeach a president. as filling as this all may...
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it seems to me mueller is above everything because mueller is your appointed prosecutor who found att depends what metric you are judging by, right? whenever i argue youed for impeachment after the mueller report, people would say the public isn't with us. the public isn't there yet. the public isn't convinced. it is always a political argument. i don't know any democrat that didn't actually believe that the misdeeds enumerated in the mueller report didn't deserve impeachment. again, it is a political question. he obviously deserved to be impeached for those things. and those things are crimes. i think that that's important because some of the things that he's being impeached for might be violations of the constitution, but not indictable crimes. the things he's accused of doing in the mueller report he could be indicted for. it is one of the examples he's able to use the fact that he's in this office that he utterly shouldn't be in to protect himself from his own record of law breaking. >> yeah. that brings us back to the echoes where precedent doesn't resolve eriverything. nixon's
it seems to me mueller is above everything because mueller is your appointed prosecutor who found att depends what metric you are judging by, right? whenever i argue youed for impeachment after the mueller report, people would say the public isn't with us. the public isn't there yet. the public isn't convinced. it is always a political argument. i don't know any democrat that didn't actually believe that the misdeeds enumerated in the mueller report didn't deserve impeachment. again, it is a...
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no mention of the mueller report. then the gentleman opened up by saying, the rules have been followed. the rules have been followed. so the gentleman from maryland said. the only problem is, just today, yet another rule has been broken. house rule clause 2-j-1 of rule 11 provides that once the demand is made for a minority day of hearing, minority members shall be entitled, shall means it has to happen, to call witnesses selected by the minority to testify with respect to the measure or matter during at least one day of hearings thereon. well guess what? that didn't happen. we requested it multiple times. and the rules that the gentleman said the rules have been followed, the only problem is, the rules have been broken. shall be entwiteled -- entite told a hearing and it's been denied. the chairman denied it again today. in committee. so you can't say the rules have been followed when just today, that very committee broke the rules of the house, allowing us to have the opportunity to present the alternative case. you
no mention of the mueller report. then the gentleman opened up by saying, the rules have been followed. the rules have been followed. so the gentleman from maryland said. the only problem is, just today, yet another rule has been broken. house rule clause 2-j-1 of rule 11 provides that once the demand is made for a minority day of hearing, minority members shall be entitled, shall means it has to happen, to call witnesses selected by the minority to testify with respect to the measure or matter...
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, mueller reached no conclusion.ot spgot into thae tit for tat. more importantly i think it would play into the president's hands and the hands of republicans who say, look. they've been lying in wait since day one for the president. this is about the whole kitchen sink and not simply what transpired relative to ukraine. i think a sniper approach is better than a shotgun blast in a case like this. >> great to have you on with us. watch "smerconish" tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern. think of how much is going to happen before 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. >>> disturbing video raising questions about the border patrol's explanation of how a migrant teenager died in their custody. that story is next. more to me than hiv. there's my career... my cause... and creating my dream home. i'm a work in progress. so much goes into who i am. hiv medicine is one part of it. prescription dovato is for adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment and who aren't resistant to either of the medicines dolutegravir or lamivudine. dovato has 2 medicines in
, mueller reached no conclusion.ot spgot into thae tit for tat. more importantly i think it would play into the president's hands and the hands of republicans who say, look. they've been lying in wait since day one for the president. this is about the whole kitchen sink and not simply what transpired relative to ukraine. i think a sniper approach is better than a shotgun blast in a case like this. >> great to have you on with us. watch "smerconish" tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern....
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that's what the mueller report is partly about.truction charges in the mueller report are about. and the two fit together. context is everything both in finding the truth, and it also figures in impeachment. the nixon impeachment was very much about the context of all of his criminal acts. this impeachment is about cover-up and the actions that the president has taken both in public and in private and what he has done to undermine the free electoral process. but it also goes to all of the lying that we can see. david is trying to make this point too, i think. that you can't isolate everything. and the reason that we are watching the republicans refuse to have real investigation is because they know there is a cover-up. they don't want the facts to come out. and there has been that kind of obstruction from the very beginning of the investigation of this president of the united states. >> david? >> i keep thinking, what if mueller had actually resolved whether there had been obstruction of justice instead of leaving it open so that t
that's what the mueller report is partly about.truction charges in the mueller report are about. and the two fit together. context is everything both in finding the truth, and it also figures in impeachment. the nixon impeachment was very much about the context of all of his criminal acts. this impeachment is about cover-up and the actions that the president has taken both in public and in private and what he has done to undermine the free electoral process. but it also goes to all of the lying...
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in the meantime, you brought up rod rosenstein and the mueller report and mueller investigation. should i take that to mean that you think that elements of the mueller investigation will be part of articles of impeachment? >> what you should take it to mean is that for 2 1/2 years, this has been very carefully considered, looked at. all of that information is available to the judiciary committee. they will be considering all of the information. my point is this is not a rush to judgment. in fact, as you probably know, over the last 2 1/2 years we've had three votes on whether or not to pass an impeachment resolution and it has been rejected by the house of representatives with the majority of democrats voting against it because they wanted a very considered, thoughtful, careful review of what is a very serious responsibility that we take very much to heart. but we've made an oath when we were sworn in to protect the constitution and laws of this country. that's what we're doing. >> you say it is not a rush to judgment. you are making that case loudly this morning. yesterday profe
in the meantime, you brought up rod rosenstein and the mueller report and mueller investigation. should i take that to mean that you think that elements of the mueller investigation will be part of articles of impeachment? >> what you should take it to mean is that for 2 1/2 years, this has been very carefully considered, looked at. all of that information is available to the judiciary committee. they will be considering all of the information. my point is this is not a rush to judgment....
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-- the mueller findings play in.se trump was on notice -- this went just some naive person new to the office and didn't understand how it worked. he got a warning, got away for the most part with mueller. that's how we see this play into the larger picture. he got the mueller report and the next day he makes in call. >> i got to take a quick break. weal have more, elliott, robert and russ. everyone else sticking around. member of the both the judiciary and intelligence committee eric swalwell talks about what comes neck after today's hearing. we'll be right back. the holidays are here and so is t-mobile's newest, most powerful signal. and we want to keep you connected to those you love, with the new iphone 11. so t-mobile is giving you an iphone 11 on us for each new line of unlimited. for yourself, or up to a family of four. keep your family connected, and hurry into t-mobile today, to get up to four iphone 11's on us. only at t-mobile. wthat's why xfinity hasu made taking your internetself. and tv with you a breeze
-- the mueller findings play in.se trump was on notice -- this went just some naive person new to the office and didn't understand how it worked. he got a warning, got away for the most part with mueller. that's how we see this play into the larger picture. he got the mueller report and the next day he makes in call. >> i got to take a quick break. weal have more, elliott, robert and russ. everyone else sticking around. member of the both the judiciary and intelligence committee eric...
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mueller when he testified. mr. turley, i know that you mentioned obstruction of justice several times in your testimony. i want to yield to mr. ratcliff to ask a concise question about that issue. >> thank you for yielding. professor turley in the last few days we've heard that despite no questions to any witnesses during the first two months of the first phase of this pea impeachment inquiry that the democrats may be dusting off the obstruction of justice portion of the mueller report. seems to me that we all remember how painful it was to listen to special counsel's analysis of the obstruction of justice portion of that report. i would like you to address the fatal flaws from your perspective with regard to the obstruction of justice portion of that. >> the gentleman's time is expired. the witz may answer the question briefly. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i've been a critic of the obstruction theory behind the russia investigation because once again it doesn't meet what i think are the clear standards for obstruct
mueller when he testified. mr. turley, i know that you mentioned obstruction of justice several times in your testimony. i want to yield to mr. ratcliff to ask a concise question about that issue. >> thank you for yielding. professor turley in the last few days we've heard that despite no questions to any witnesses during the first two months of the first phase of this pea impeachment inquiry that the democrats may be dusting off the obstruction of justice portion of the mueller report....
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will the democrats or will they not introduce mueller evidence?irman said they can make their case in three minutes. >> you solidify the case. you show with the mueller report there's a pattern of behavior that makes this worse for ukraine. but the risk for speaker pelosi is that you lose the moderate democrats. they made it clear they don't want to talk about this. they already have enough with the vote. that's a debate with the democrats. it's political. >> regarding the republicans, we're seeing them unite more and more behind president trump, and seeing ted cruz jumping in, peddling disinformation, saying that ukraine meddled in the 2016 election. are we getting a preview of what the president's defense is going to be once the senate trial starts? spreading more misinformation and making it partisan? >> absolutely. that's why some say there's no use in adding the mueller report. it won't change minds. republicans will spread disinformation. they will talk about hunter widen. th biden. they will continue with the same playbook regardless of wha
will the democrats or will they not introduce mueller evidence?irman said they can make their case in three minutes. >> you solidify the case. you show with the mueller report there's a pattern of behavior that makes this worse for ukraine. but the risk for speaker pelosi is that you lose the moderate democrats. they made it clear they don't want to talk about this. they already have enough with the vote. that's a debate with the democrats. it's political. >> regarding the...
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mueller when he testified. mr. turley, i know that you mentioned obstruction of justice several times in your testimony. i want to yield to mr. ratcliffe to ask a concise question about that issue. >> i thank the gentleman for yielding. professor turley, in the last few days, we've been hearing that despite no questions to any witnesses during the first two months of the first phase of this impeachment inquiry. that the democrats may be dusting off the obstruction of justice portion of the mueller report. seems to me that we all remember how painful it was to listen to special counsel's analysis of the obstruction of justice portion of that report. i'd like you to address the fatal flaws from your perspective with regard to the obstruction of justice portion of that. >> the gentleman's time is expired. the witness may answer the question briefly. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i -- i've been a critic of -- of the obstruction theory behind the russia investigation because, once again, it doesn't meet what i think are t
mueller when he testified. mr. turley, i know that you mentioned obstruction of justice several times in your testimony. i want to yield to mr. ratcliffe to ask a concise question about that issue. >> i thank the gentleman for yielding. professor turley, in the last few days, we've been hearing that despite no questions to any witnesses during the first two months of the first phase of this impeachment inquiry. that the democrats may be dusting off the obstruction of justice portion of...
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> well, he -- mueller -- look, i don't want to get into the mueller report. we can have -- >> he said -- he specifically said if the president was exonerated, i would say so. he didn't say that. >> no, i understand that. but listen, i've listened to our legal -- we don't need to debate mueller. all i'm trying to tell you is that's behind us, and i'm glad that the democrats are focusing on this case of abuse of power. they didn't go beyond that much in the obstruction of congress and all that stuff, but what i'm saying to you is i think they've taken a more responsible, constructive approach to doing it this way, and i'm glad that they did that. and they didn't go off in other kinds of degrees. i think it gives them more credibility. but it doesn't matter because the republicans are going to say, this is not the case. the democrats are going to say it is the case. and where do we go from here, don? how do we ever know what we're supposed to believe in? so people like you in the media, me too, we have to stand for the truth. we can't shade it. i'm proud of what
> well, he -- mueller -- look, i don't want to get into the mueller report. we can have -- >> he said -- he specifically said if the president was exonerated, i would say so. he didn't say that. >> no, i understand that. but listen, i've listened to our legal -- we don't need to debate mueller. all i'm trying to tell you is that's behind us, and i'm glad that the democrats are focusing on this case of abuse of power. they didn't go beyond that much in the obstruction of congress...
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that's what mueller was talking about. is mueller going to be out of this?u don't know the answer of this. >> and it's coming out tomorrow? >> i'm not quite sure exactly what is coming out tomorrow. it may just be a statement of what the rest of the week is. i'm not quite sure exactly what is on the agenda there. let me just refer back to the hearing that we had with the constitutional law scholars. this ukraine episode embodies all three of these patterns of conduct. it is the elevation of the president's personal political agenda above the national security, above the constitution. it is the enticement of foreign powers into corrupt our elections and then a total scramble to obstruct any efforts to figure out what happened by blockading witnesses, withholding evidence and preventing congress from doing its job. >> so let's see, if tomorrow they don't put out the articles of impeachment, you have a lot of people feeding us information they shouldn't have. does that speak to how much division is there? >> i don't think there's very much division at all. the
that's what mueller was talking about. is mueller going to be out of this?u don't know the answer of this. >> and it's coming out tomorrow? >> i'm not quite sure exactly what is coming out tomorrow. it may just be a statement of what the rest of the week is. i'm not quite sure exactly what is on the agenda there. let me just refer back to the hearing that we had with the constitutional law scholars. this ukraine episode embodies all three of these patterns of conduct. it is the...
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he got through mueller. mueller on the hill and the next day he picks up the phone oand calls zelensky. it's still-the craze thing in the entire scandal, that he was doing the next day. if you think about what happened today, that we did not know 24 hours ago was there would only be two articles of impeachment and that tells you a lot about the power of nancy pelosi who, when she realized she was heading down the path of impeachment, said to people privately in her caucus, we're going to be done by christmas. the house is not going to vote on this in an election year. we're not going to let this be sprawling and there was a lot of debate, fractious debait over this last weekend over should we have three, four, five. some wanted seven or eight articles of impeachment. and obstruction of justice that mueller laid out in his report. nancy pelosi and adam schiff, whether right or wrong, i do not know. but they've been very about what they want and they got it. >> what can you tell us about the party's move to ev
he got through mueller. mueller on the hill and the next day he picks up the phone oand calls zelensky. it's still-the craze thing in the entire scandal, that he was doing the next day. if you think about what happened today, that we did not know 24 hours ago was there would only be two articles of impeachment and that tells you a lot about the power of nancy pelosi who, when she realized she was heading down the path of impeachment, said to people privately in her caucus, we're going to be...
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particularly when you bring in the mueller report and all of the baggage therein. there were concerning things in the mueller report for a lot of members of congress and the public. that said, because of the sustained campaign against it, because of robert mueller's own testimony, it has a lot more complicated messaging than the straightforward ukraine corruption situation that we've seen most recently being investigated. >> so i asked nancy pelosi yesterday at our town hall about her previous quotes where she said if they proceed with impeachment, it needs to be bipartisan saand as of right no it doesn't look bipartisan except for those voting against impeachment. here is what she had to say. >> does this mean you're failing to meet the standard you set in january. >> no. i'm saying republicans have failed to heat the standard of honor their oath of office to protect and defend the constitution of the united states. >> what do you think? >> i think it was wishful thinking for democratic leaders to expect impeachment proceedings against the president to be bipartis
particularly when you bring in the mueller report and all of the baggage therein. there were concerning things in the mueller report for a lot of members of congress and the public. that said, because of the sustained campaign against it, because of robert mueller's own testimony, it has a lot more complicated messaging than the straightforward ukraine corruption situation that we've seen most recently being investigated. >> so i asked nancy pelosi yesterday at our town hall about her...
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this stems closely to the mueller report. the report laid out ten different instances of obstruction of justice. several members over the course of the last couple weeks have been pushing to include that. however, moderate members of the democrat congress particularly front line freshmen say keep it focused keep it narrow. there are two, a third is being debated at this moment. staff working through the night on this issue. still unclear whether or not that third will be included. >> what happens after the articles of impeachment are announced? >> i'll lay it out. tomorrow morning speaker pelosi will meet with the key chairman at 8:00 p.m. before they announce the articles. 9:00 a.m. they will announce articles of impeachment. that will kick it off. throughout the day wednesday people will go behind closed doors to prepare for thursday. thursday is house judiciary committee consideration. at least the start of the consideration of the articles of impeachment. expect it to be long and and in the weeds legislatively. what this
this stems closely to the mueller report. the report laid out ten different instances of obstruction of justice. several members over the course of the last couple weeks have been pushing to include that. however, moderate members of the democrat congress particularly front line freshmen say keep it focused keep it narrow. there are two, a third is being debated at this moment. staff working through the night on this issue. still unclear whether or not that third will be included. >> what...
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they weren't there when mueller testified or when mueller's report came out. and they've made clear behind the scenes they'd like to keep this narrow. this is the thing to keep an eye on in the days ahead. how they draft the articles of impeachment is interesting. i think it's clear some of them will pass the house but how they address the scope, how they address the scale and how they address members that have long thought that mueller needs to be included in this. obstruction of justice needs to be included with this as that compares with those wary of going too far. is something they're going to have to figure out. as manu noted, we all assumed this was going to be the case. the speaker laying the stake in the ground, giving the historical precedent and relevance to this was an important moment. but the real questions and debates inside the democratic caucus about what those articles will look like will take place over the next few days. >> dana bash, i am sure i've been speaking to republican congressmen over the last days and weeks to see if they have an
they weren't there when mueller testified or when mueller's report came out. and they've made clear behind the scenes they'd like to keep this narrow. this is the thing to keep an eye on in the days ahead. how they draft the articles of impeachment is interesting. i think it's clear some of them will pass the house but how they address the scope, how they address the scale and how they address members that have long thought that mueller needs to be included in this. obstruction of justice needs...
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the mueller report, okay?exonerated him. there was no collusion. get over it. but now we got -- then we look at this -- >> john, john, you're not right on that. john, you're not right on that. the mueller report found a number of instances of obstruction, but it found that it did not rise to the level -- the evidence they had did not rise to the level. and also that the department of justice, the rules that you cannot indict a sitting president. but there were a number of instances in the mueller report. it was just that the attorney general spun the findings of the mueller report. but if you actually read the mueller report, it was very damning. but you cannot say that there were no instances that trump was exonerated from the mueller report. >> well, he -- mueller -- look, i don't want to get into the mueller report. >> he said -- he specifically said if the president was exonerated, i would say so. he didn't say that. >> no, i understand that. but, listen, i've listened to our legal -- we don't need to deba
the mueller report, okay?exonerated him. there was no collusion. get over it. but now we got -- then we look at this -- >> john, john, you're not right on that. john, you're not right on that. the mueller report found a number of instances of obstruction, but it found that it did not rise to the level -- the evidence they had did not rise to the level. and also that the department of justice, the rules that you cannot indict a sitting president. but there were a number of instances in the...
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in the mueller report, how many pages did the mueller report refer to carter page? >> i don't recall the exact number but it wasn't a large number. >> i do know because i read it. it was seven pages. that was out of 448 pages. so, very -- barely mentioned. i'm not trying to minimize fbi's mistakes here, but keep it in context. the fbi's errors in carter page's case do not undermine the unanimous assessment that russia and not ukraine interfered in our election, is that correct? >> yeah. we describe in the report the information about russia's -- the conclusions about russia's meddling in the 2016 election. >> i remember one of the political events mr. trump was having said, russia, if you're listening, take a look at this. well, the trump campaign seemed to welcome in, exploit it. now, none of these errors, and correct me if i'm wrong, minimize the legitimacy of the dozens of indictments and convictions that resulted from the special counsel's russia investigation, is that correct? >> we make very clear here the errors and serious problems we identify are concerning
in the mueller report, how many pages did the mueller report refer to carter page? >> i don't recall the exact number but it wasn't a large number. >> i do know because i read it. it was seven pages. that was out of 448 pages. so, very -- barely mentioned. i'm not trying to minimize fbi's mistakes here, but keep it in context. the fbi's errors in carter page's case do not undermine the unanimous assessment that russia and not ukraine interfered in our election, is that correct?...
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as they did with the mueller report.re doing it after, but barr is essentially spinning these facts. he says it was only the thinnest of evidence on which the russia investigation was begun. that is not what this report says. it lays out all of the facts, the compelling facts that the evidence was there. the united states faced a very grave threat to its national security, and that crimes were possibly being committed. the job of the fbi, its essential mission is to investigate claims like that. it wasn't thin evidence. it was really serious evidence that any american citizen would be worried about if they had been confronted with it. >> we've never seen an attorney general come out and disagree with an inspector general's report. >> no. this is unprecedented. not only that, barr has commissioned yet another major investigation into the origin of the russia investigation, the so-called durham investigation. >> and john durham put out a statement today saying we disagree with this inspector general. >> that is also shocki
as they did with the mueller report.re doing it after, but barr is essentially spinning these facts. he says it was only the thinnest of evidence on which the russia investigation was begun. that is not what this report says. it lays out all of the facts, the compelling facts that the evidence was there. the united states faced a very grave threat to its national security, and that crimes were possibly being committed. the job of the fbi, its essential mission is to investigate claims like...
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that would have been the mueller charges.does it tell you, john, that basically it appears they're deciding not to go with including mueller? >> this is something democrats were reportedly debating behind closed doors last night. the issue seems to be that some of the more centrist democrats are concerned if they widen the scope -- the mueller report some said had a road map for impeachment regarding obstruction. but apparently some democrats are concerned about the way polls are going. let's keep it tightly focused on ukraine. there is reporting that the mueller report will be referred to to establish a pattern. >> is this the deciding factor? is that the deciding factor for the democrats who are in red districts whether or not some of the mueller stuff is included or not? is that what's going to be the difference for them about whether they vote for impeachment? >> a lot of those democrats have already made a decision. they've already cast the deciding vote in materials of how they're going to be painted politically by voti
that would have been the mueller charges.does it tell you, john, that basically it appears they're deciding not to go with including mueller? >> this is something democrats were reportedly debating behind closed doors last night. the issue seems to be that some of the more centrist democrats are concerned if they widen the scope -- the mueller report some said had a road map for impeachment regarding obstruction. but apparently some democrats are concerned about the way polls are going....
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will democrats risk adding details from the mueller probe into articles of impeachment? >>> the fbi is investigating the pensacola shooting as an act of terror. why the gunman's time in saudi arabia is being examined. >>> breaking overnight, the death toll climbing after a massive volcanic eruption in new zealand. >>> and his legendary characters defined our childhood. fans around the world are mourning the loss of "sesame street" puppet eeer spinney. >> good morning. it's 4:00 a.m. in new york. six days to the iowa caucuses. we start in the nation's capital, with democrats facing a momentous impeachment finale, as they set the charges against president trump. judiciary committee members will hear the case. party members are questioning whether to include investigations from the mueller report. >> judiciary committee chairman, jerry nadler, confident in his case but cautious about using mueller's evidence. >> do you feel comfortable that this whole thing was directed by the president himself? >> yes. >> you feel you have a rock-solid case? >> we have a very rock-solid ca
will democrats risk adding details from the mueller probe into articles of impeachment? >>> the fbi is investigating the pensacola shooting as an act of terror. why the gunman's time in saudi arabia is being examined. >>> breaking overnight, the death toll climbing after a massive volcanic eruption in new zealand. >>> and his legendary characters defined our childhood. fans around the world are mourning the loss of "sesame street" puppet eeer spinney....
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now nadler has been out making the argument based on mueller.extraordinary steps to obstruct the mueller investigation and the thaukt is that it would be unjust and not right forry if truch got away from this without an article of impeachment. but on the other hand, thr downsides. if they include an article base ed on mueller, you will be expand aing the trial and two, there's a risk that some democrats would vote against a mueller article of impeachment. two suggested to manu that they would do just that. even if they don't include it as an article of impeachment, it will be important context for what happened. july 24th, robert mueller testifies, he says there was foreign interference in the 2016 election. there will likely be in 2020. next day, president trump gets ton phone with zelensky asks hi. >> that timing, that's important to remember there also. we've been talking so much about how you know mick mull vvaney a john bolton and some other administration officials won't testify because the white house asked them not o to. another viewer w
now nadler has been out making the argument based on mueller.extraordinary steps to obstruct the mueller investigation and the thaukt is that it would be unjust and not right forry if truch got away from this without an article of impeachment. but on the other hand, thr downsides. if they include an article base ed on mueller, you will be expand aing the trial and two, there's a risk that some democrats would vote against a mueller article of impeachment. two suggested to manu that they would...
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if you add the mueller report, you have to explain more events.nd so forth. so i think that's more of a factual statement. i'm in favor of maximum clarity in the articles. >> i'm thinking for the sake of maximum clarity, i see you're leaning more towards the keep it to ukraine rather than adding in the mueller because this high lights the spot that some democrats in specifically trump one districts that they find themselves. in a tough spot when it comes to how to vote on articles of impeachment, especially depending on what the scope of the charges. let me read you what one of those members said yesterday because he says he's a no vote on impeachment still saying it doesn't, nothing that he's seen rises to the level and adds this warning to democrats. be careful what you wish for. an impeachment is tearing the nation apart. how is he wrong? if you haven't convinced him, a democrat in the house, are you concerned? >> i think this is definitely an issue as a matter of conscious that people are going to vote on and i don't think that i'm not going t
if you add the mueller report, you have to explain more events.nd so forth. so i think that's more of a factual statement. i'm in favor of maximum clarity in the articles. >> i'm thinking for the sake of maximum clarity, i see you're leaning more towards the keep it to ukraine rather than adding in the mueller because this high lights the spot that some democrats in specifically trump one districts that they find themselves. in a tough spot when it comes to how to vote on articles of...
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doesn't matter what mueller finds. as long as there aren't enough senate republicans to vote for his conviction should that -- i mean, they had seemed to have been gaming this out and counting votes on impeachment literally since year one of the trump presidency. >> and they just don't really worry about the facts of the case that were presented over two weeks in the democratic hearings in the house. because they think that, you know, one, we've inoculated ourselves. trump's inoculated himself because he's got 40% of the country that's going to dismiss anything negative about him as being motivated by partisan politics and a hatred for him and thus the trump voter. and that's why the republicans stay put. but, you know, in terms of this deadline that's coming up and whether they are going to cooperate, trump is about as likely to cooperate with the house investigation as he was to testify with mueller. but when it gets to the senate all the conversations at the white house have been gaming out that senate trial. they a
doesn't matter what mueller finds. as long as there aren't enough senate republicans to vote for his conviction should that -- i mean, they had seemed to have been gaming this out and counting votes on impeachment literally since year one of the trump presidency. >> and they just don't really worry about the facts of the case that were presented over two weeks in the democratic hearings in the house. because they think that, you know, one, we've inoculated ourselves. trump's inoculated...
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it basically validates the famous russia probe that led to mueller. in opening this thing and the inspector general, the watchdog here, was explaining the decision to open this entire probe was justified. >> we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that indicated political bias or motivation influencing his decision to open the investigation. >> but the report does find there were fundamental errors in the way certain surveillance and warrants were done, including of trump adviser carter page, someone who joined our show last night. senator dick durbin noted the context here. we, if you watch this show, know we have been very clear about the evidence and did that in our interview with carter page, because he was basically subjected to surveillance that ultimately was not 100% fair according to this report. but this is interesting. senator durbin adds a lot of context about how these warrants usually work and other complaints. take a look. >> the chairman gave an uncharacterist uncharacteristic, flowery, heated opening. fisa court identified
it basically validates the famous russia probe that led to mueller. in opening this thing and the inspector general, the watchdog here, was explaining the decision to open this entire probe was justified. >> we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that indicated political bias or motivation influencing his decision to open the investigation. >> but the report does find there were fundamental errors in the way certain surveillance and warrants were done, including of...
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i supported the mueller investigation. i introduced legislation with senator booker, koonz and tillis saying the special counsel mueller could not be fired except with cause. i believe that bob mueller who i've known for a long time, would be fair, not only to the president but the public at large. i did not know what was there. somebody like mueller needed to look at all things russia and trump. and i gave him the space to do his job. the report was submitted to the congress and the american people, and no action was taken. and i thought that would end it. i thought it was over. i thought we would take our cases to the american people, but i was wrong. so what happened in the house impeachment driven by partisans, this is unique. it's the first impeachment in modern times anyway driven by people within the body where there was no outside counsel. whether you agree with clinton's impeachment or not, ken starr took several years looking at allegations and made a report to congress detailing abuse by president clinton. water
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going back to the mueller report to find additional potential articles of impeachment.rt >> the part of the mueller report that's most likely to show up is the second half, the stuff that deals with obstruction. there are a lot of democrats, especially on the judiciary committee, who feel like the obstruction laid out in the mueller report is part of a pattern, part of the same obstructive behavior you are seeing from the president even now refusing to comply with subpoena, refusing to send his aidss to the hill to come and testify. there are some democrats who would like to see that included in whatever the house committees produce. it doesn't have to be a separate article. but they think it is instructive and all part of the same issue here. i think frankly there are probably some house democrats on judiciary who have been dealing with this issue for so long on the mueller report, they want to see it in included just to get it all wrapped up. what nancy pelosi wants is still a mystery.an you saw her not answer my question there. she dodged a similar question during that cnn town ha
going back to the mueller report to find additional potential articles of impeachment.rt >> the part of the mueller report that's most likely to show up is the second half, the stuff that deals with obstruction. there are a lot of democrats, especially on the judiciary committee, who feel like the obstruction laid out in the mueller report is part of a pattern, part of the same obstructive behavior you are seeing from the president even now refusing to comply with subpoena, refusing to...
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mueller when he testified. mr. turley, i know you mentioned obstruction of justice several times in your testimony. i want to yield to mr. radcliffe to ask a concise question about that issue. >> thank you, gentlemen could before yielding. professor turley, we've been despite the questions to witnesses for the first phase of this, they may be dusting off each we all remember how painful it was to listen to special counsel's analysis of the obstruction of justice portion of that report. i'd like you to address the fatal flaws of your perspective with regard to the extraction of justice portion of that. >> the gentlemen's time expires. the witness may answer the question. >> thank you, chairman. i've been a credit of the obstruction theory behind the russian investigation because, t doesn't beat what i think are te clear standards. the other thing i think raise a serious issue quite frankly is the matter with don again. there is a disagreement about that, but the department of justice objected the claim, it's not jus
mueller when he testified. mr. turley, i know you mentioned obstruction of justice several times in your testimony. i want to yield to mr. radcliffe to ask a concise question about that issue. >> thank you, gentlemen could before yielding. professor turley, we've been despite the questions to witnesses for the first phase of this, they may be dusting off each we all remember how painful it was to listen to special counsel's analysis of the obstruction of justice portion of that report....
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is mueller going to be left out of this?he answer to that, and i mean -- >> and it's coming out tomorrow? >> i can't tell because i don't know. well, i'm not quite sure exactly what's coming out tomorrow. it may just be a statement of what the schedule for the rest of the week is. i just -- i'm not quite sure exactly what's on the agenda there. but let me just refer back to the hearing that we had with the constitutional law scholars. this ukraine episode embodies all three of these patterns of conduct. it is the elevation of the president's personal political agenda above the national security, above the constitution. it is the enticement of foreign powers in to corrupt our elections and then a total scramble to obstruct any efforts to figure out what happened by blockading witnesses, withholding evidence, and preventing congress from doing its job. >> so let's see. if tomorrow they don't put out the articles of impeachment, you had a lot of people feeding us information that they shouldn't have. now, does that speak to how
is mueller going to be left out of this?he answer to that, and i mean -- >> and it's coming out tomorrow? >> i can't tell because i don't know. well, i'm not quite sure exactly what's coming out tomorrow. it may just be a statement of what the schedule for the rest of the week is. i just -- i'm not quite sure exactly what's on the agenda there. but let me just refer back to the hearing that we had with the constitutional law scholars. this ukraine episode embodies all three of these...
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should matters of mueller report be considered and make their way into articles of impeachment. there are some democrats who don't want to relit galgt the mueller report or confuse the issue that may be stark in america's minds about donald trump and what he did with the president of ukraine and rudy giuliani and all that with russia. what's your thought on all of this. you were talking about impeachment having to do with russia. >> what i was talking about having to do was openings corruption as president taking money from foreign countries and clear obstruction of justice which is detailed in the million. as far as i'm concerned what happened with ukraine was part of a pattern of corruption and is subsequent obstruction of justice as it's being investigated is also part of a pattern of his putting himself ahead of the law and ahead of the american people. if you read the mueller report is lays out in fact in copious detail the fact that he repeatedly intentionally obstructed justice in a way that merits impeachment whether they choose to include that i think their question sho
should matters of mueller report be considered and make their way into articles of impeachment. there are some democrats who don't want to relit galgt the mueller report or confuse the issue that may be stark in america's minds about donald trump and what he did with the president of ukraine and rudy giuliani and all that with russia. what's your thought on all of this. you were talking about impeachment having to do with russia. >> what i was talking about having to do was openings...
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they got the mueller report.ou look at what -- paul: they are still accusing him of collusion. >> when bob mueller came in, there was enough evidence that this was going nowhere, yet they continued the investigation. the whole thing from the beginning is finding out that the steele stuff was not credible and they went with it anyway. >> let's not for get the inspector general's report which came out more recently. that had evidence of the fbi hiding exculpatory evidence. that is really a scandal. it's terrifying for i think american citizens. i mean, those of us who believe in civil liberties, which should be the bulk of washington -- paul: everybody. >> yeah. you hohow come there's sort of most of the press has been abuses of the fbi is trump in a were r worse than anything we learned about donald trump and russia. >> absolutely. the ig report has been absolutely devastating to the fbi and we already had reports come out, i mean, people forget, short memories, but we've had three reports about jim comey, the for
they got the mueller report.ou look at what -- paul: they are still accusing him of collusion. >> when bob mueller came in, there was enough evidence that this was going nowhere, yet they continued the investigation. the whole thing from the beginning is finding out that the steele stuff was not credible and they went with it anyway. >> let's not for get the inspector general's report which came out more recently. that had evidence of the fbi hiding exculpatory evidence. that is...
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he was the former counsel to robert mueller at the fbi when robert mueller was fbi director.th." and john heilemann is back with us to join the discussion. chuck, your reaction to what you heard the attorney general say today in that interview. >> lawrence, i'm mystified. let me tell you why. first let me back up a bit and let me tell you what the inspector general found because the top findings by the specter general are really important to understanding what the attorney general said. the inspector general found first there was no political bias, no improper motive in the fbi's investigation of russian investigation into election interference nor in their opening the case. and with respect to opening the case that the predication was proper. predication is sort of a fancy and legal word. what it means is basically this. an fbi agent cannot open a case based on a hunch or suspicion or a fevered dream or because he doesn't like her next door neighbor. she needs some quantum of proof, she needs some evidence. a threshold, and we call that predication. and the inspector general
he was the former counsel to robert mueller at the fbi when robert mueller was fbi director.th." and john heilemann is back with us to join the discussion. chuck, your reaction to what you heard the attorney general say today in that interview. >> lawrence, i'm mystified. let me tell you why. first let me back up a bit and let me tell you what the inspector general found because the top findings by the specter general are really important to understanding what the attorney general...
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>> it does feel like the mueller report was a long time ago. people should read volume two, in his report, mueller said not an indictable basis, the president and his people invited the russians in to participate. he also did things like firing the director of the fbi because he didn't like an investigation the fbi was doing. that is unprecedented and blatant disregard for the concepts of checks and balances. i don't know how you look at volume two, where bob mueller says, here are 10 instances of obstruction of justice, a crime that would send every other american to jail, i'm not quite sure how you look at those 10 counts and say, we ought to let that slide. >> house intelligence committee, lawyers and counsels will present the evidence to the house judiciary committee. will they present new evidence? >> i don't know. our investigation will continue because there's still a lot of unanswered questions out there. i will say again the evidence and reason we can move fairly quickly and the reason speaker pelosi came out as definitively as she did
>> it does feel like the mueller report was a long time ago. people should read volume two, in his report, mueller said not an indictable basis, the president and his people invited the russians in to participate. he also did things like firing the director of the fbi because he didn't like an investigation the fbi was doing. that is unprecedented and blatant disregard for the concepts of checks and balances. i don't know how you look at volume two, where bob mueller says, here are 10...
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it spawned the mueller investigation. i think that's why a lot of people believe that despite the president's tweet this morning, he understands that now is not the time to push christopher wray out. and notably, christopher wray has been saying this kind of thing for a long time. he's been defending his fbi against the president for a long time. and so far he's remained in his job. so, you know, i'm not sure the president is willing to really produce -- provoke yet another constitutional crisis by firing his fbi director over something like that. >> the only thing that's new is when he says consider the source and don't believe everything you hear, dot, dot, dot, parenthetically from the president. that may be a new bridge that may be too far. abby, david, jeffrey toobin. our current guests and current friends. >> thank you, guys. >>> in just hours, president trump will meet with the russian foreign minister as abby said. an oval office visit what we first found out about from the russians. what can we expect given every
it spawned the mueller investigation. i think that's why a lot of people believe that despite the president's tweet this morning, he understands that now is not the time to push christopher wray out. and notably, christopher wray has been saying this kind of thing for a long time. he's been defending his fbi against the president for a long time. and so far he's remained in his job. so, you know, i'm not sure the president is willing to really produce -- provoke yet another constitutional...
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and in turn what did he do to keep mueller in the job? he was mueller's boss.m being fired by rosenstein? rosenstein's colleagues say in his defense his sole mission was to protect mueller. but if the price was to clip his wings, to not let mueller insist on getting testimony from the president, as every prosecutor i know believes he should have and then for mueller to ignore the whole story of rosenstein in his report, which i'd report in the book but he didn't put in the report. and i know he knew it because rosenstein was one of the first people he interviewed. why that wasn't in there is baffling and leads the legitimate suspicions that mueller was influenced to pull some punches there. >> a real honor to have you here. the amazing reporting we've come to expect from you. thank you very much. "deep state" is the name of the book. trip, the fbi and the rule of law. this is must-read material if you want to understand what the trump administration is still up to right now. >>> up next chaos in the not so united kingdom by mr. chaos himself boris johnson and b
and in turn what did he do to keep mueller in the job? he was mueller's boss.m being fired by rosenstein? rosenstein's colleagues say in his defense his sole mission was to protect mueller. but if the price was to clip his wings, to not let mueller insist on getting testimony from the president, as every prosecutor i know believes he should have and then for mueller to ignore the whole story of rosenstein in his report, which i'd report in the book but he didn't put in the report. and i know he...
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and andy said you don't say no to bob mueller.s at home and had already gone through, you know, two years of extraordinary circumstances and very long hours and days. and i knew what a bob mueller operation looked like and so i asked to do a 45-day detail in return. >> well, it has turned into a hell of a change in your life. thank you for being willing to talk to us about it tonight. this is your first tv interview and i appreciate the trust it takes to be willing to be here. thanks. >> thank you. >> lisa page. we'll be right back. stay with us. bringing familie. this time of year, that's really important. so we're making it easier than ever to become part of our family. man: that's why our chevy employee discount is now available to everyone. the chevy price you pay is what we pay. not a cent more. family is important to us. and we'd like you to be part of ours. so happy holidays. and welcome to the family. the chevy family! get the chevy employee discount for everyone today. beyond the routine checkups. beyond the not-so-routin
and andy said you don't say no to bob mueller.s at home and had already gone through, you know, two years of extraordinary circumstances and very long hours and days. and i knew what a bob mueller operation looked like and so i asked to do a 45-day detail in return. >> well, it has turned into a hell of a change in your life. thank you for being willing to talk to us about it tonight. this is your first tv interview and i appreciate the trust it takes to be willing to be here. thanks....
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first the president was going to, you know, put on a big testimony for mueller and then backed down. he was going to participate in the judiciary hearings and backed down. time and again the white house blusters and claims they will be active participants. and then when it's show time they actually go and hide in the back room. >> you have unknowingly just walked right into my tv trap. i'm glad you invoked all those times he was going to testify. i'm glad you invoked reality television because now i'm going to play for you andrew napolitano from fox news. >> if you go to a senate trial, who testifies on behalf of the president? >> himself. >> you believe that could happen? >> i do. i think it will be the most dramatic legal-political event in the history of our era with the president of the united states testifying under oath in front of the chief justice in the senate and 200 million people watching on television. >> ron, let me just remind you he's our first ever president that came from a reality tv star, 14 seasons of which aired from the building i'm sitting in. what do you make
first the president was going to, you know, put on a big testimony for mueller and then backed down. he was going to participate in the judiciary hearings and backed down. time and again the white house blusters and claims they will be active participants. and then when it's show time they actually go and hide in the back room. >> you have unknowingly just walked right into my tv trap. i'm glad you invoked all those times he was going to testify. i'm glad you invoked reality television...
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robert mueller's dossier dodge. it is asking the question, same question that i asked throughout the mueller trial, i'm sorry, mueller hearing, it was basically how is it even possible that robert mueller can sit there and testify to what took place in 2016 in terms of russia meddling without looking at the dossier? over and over again he said that the dossier was not in his purview, it was not in his mandate. we know in the i.g. report, the dossier quote, essential part of the wiretap warrant they got. the warrant to wiretap an innocent american citizen, that is carter page. what is your reaction to that, mueller refused to talk about the dossier, now we know it was essential for getting that wiretap? he was former fbi director. he spent 40 plus million dollars on this mueller probe. shouldn't he have known that? >> yeah. i don't see how you can investigate the 2016 trump russia allegations without looking at dossier. i don't know how you move forward once the dossier collapsed versus carter page. the horowitz repo
robert mueller's dossier dodge. it is asking the question, same question that i asked throughout the mueller trial, i'm sorry, mueller hearing, it was basically how is it even possible that robert mueller can sit there and testify to what took place in 2016 in terms of russia meddling without looking at the dossier? over and over again he said that the dossier was not in his purview, it was not in his mandate. we know in the i.g. report, the dossier quote, essential part of the wiretap warrant...
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and now, these two articles are not -- mueller -- there's not an article solely dedicated to mueller.think it's appropriate that there's a call back to mueller in that we're telling the american people, this is what the president does. he asks foreign governments to help him. and then when investigations take place, he obstructs them. but, chuck, you know, that op-ed, i wrote that after the interview between the president and george stef nop lis where the president said he was offered dirt again from a foreign government, he would take it. little did i know. little did you or the world know, the president was actually underway with the ukrainians trying to get them to investigate his political rival, joe biden. >> the -- you mention a few callbacks in the articles themselves. in article one, there's a sentence in there. these actions were consistent with president trump's previous invitations of foreign interference in the united states election. and then in article two, there's another callback that says this. these actions were consistent with president trump's previous everyda ever
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probe that was detailed in the mueller report. all of that is going to happen rather quickly. expect articles of impeachment could be introduced next week. there will be a hearing in the house judiciary committee on monday where the staff counsel of the house intelligence committee and the judiciary committee discuss findings as part of their own investigations. we'll see this happening rather quickly in the house where a vote could happen on impeachment, john, before christmas. >> a fast pace in a raw time. manu raju, appreciate the live reporting. busy day on the hill. with me to share their insights, julie pace with the associated press, jonathan with the "new york times," and "politico's" heather caygyl. the speaker here essentially responding angrily, testily to that question from james rosen saying, i don't hate anybody, don't you dare mess with me, and the president, sticking to politics responded quickly, nancy pelosi just had a nervous fit. we'll soon have great new judges. i don't believe her, not even close. help your h
probe that was detailed in the mueller report. all of that is going to happen rather quickly. expect articles of impeachment could be introduced next week. there will be a hearing in the house judiciary committee on monday where the staff counsel of the house intelligence committee and the judiciary committee discuss findings as part of their own investigations. we'll see this happening rather quickly in the house where a vote could happen on impeachment, john, before christmas. >> a fast...
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mueller, robert mueller, as special counsel. this article by charlie spearing, december 6, points out that here's what the president said. article 1 is a legislative branch. article 2 is the executive branch. and the president said, article 2 says i can do whatever i want. so for me, this is about honoring our oath of office, making sure that the constitution is respected and has about -- and how -- he ignored the subpoenas -- i'm sorry. this is pelosi. here's what trump said. look, article 2, i would be allowed to fire robert mueller, assuming i did all the things i said i want, to fire him, number one, i didn't. he wasn't fired. very importantly. but more importantly, article 2 allows me to do whatever i want. article 2 would allow me to fire him. i wasn't going to fire him. you know why? because i watched richard nixon firing everybody and that didn't work out too well for him. so that is the context the president was talking about. yes, he's exactly right. he had the authority to fire robert mueller. i encouraged him not to
mueller, robert mueller, as special counsel. this article by charlie spearing, december 6, points out that here's what the president said. article 1 is a legislative branch. article 2 is the executive branch. and the president said, article 2 says i can do whatever i want. so for me, this is about honoring our oath of office, making sure that the constitution is respected and has about -- and how -- he ignored the subpoenas -- i'm sorry. this is pelosi. here's what trump said. look, article 2,...
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stands by the mueller probe, today of all days we saw the legal resolution of a key mueller witness, one of the final trump aides to be sentenced. prosecutors recommending probation, meaning zero jail time, for former senior trump campaign aide rick gates. and this development, you see mr. gates right there from back in the day, well, this development includes some shade for donald trump himself that is relevant to impeachment in the filing these prosecutors note, mr. gates received pressure not to cooperate with the government and helped them anyway. recall, of course, donald trump attacking people who cooperate with mueller as, quote, rats. what's white house angle as all this is happening? they're basically telegraphing to their own supporters, you can ignore what the evidence says, ignore what the democrats are doing and they are predicting donald trump will be able to beat any potential conviction in the u.s. senate where mitch mcconnell will say this trump trial will come if it does come, after the holidays. i want to do something we've come to do quite regularly around here. i
stands by the mueller probe, today of all days we saw the legal resolution of a key mueller witness, one of the final trump aides to be sentenced. prosecutors recommending probation, meaning zero jail time, for former senior trump campaign aide rick gates. and this development, you see mr. gates right there from back in the day, well, this development includes some shade for donald trump himself that is relevant to impeachment in the filing these prosecutors note, mr. gates received pressure...
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does the senate trial bring in mueller and mcgann, does the scope widen in any way? >> possibly we need to see how the articles are actually written. on my point earlier -- >> what does that mean? >> imagine in a federal criminal trial you have an indictment and articles of impeachment are an indictment, and it would list the thing that we think you did, and then it would describe how you did, or how we allege you did whatever crime you're charged with. the devil is in those details, it is not enough to say that the president obstructed congress or abused his power. they need to detail how they did those things and they need to prove what they detailed. we have to read the articles of impeachment, precisely what the house is alleged that the president did in all of it's detail, and at the senate trial i mag the hou-- imagine they wi keep their allegations. that's how you prove a case in court and that's how they will prove their case in the united states. >> which is the stronger article here? >> well, you could have rolled all of this into one article or abuse of po
does the senate trial bring in mueller and mcgann, does the scope widen in any way? >> possibly we need to see how the articles are actually written. on my point earlier -- >> what does that mean? >> imagine in a federal criminal trial you have an indictment and articles of impeachment are an indictment, and it would list the thing that we think you did, and then it would describe how you did, or how we allege you did whatever crime you're charged with. the devil is in those...
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with mueller and other times, mr. mueller actually got rid of documents that i never did. melody engel and i had enganld. it's a matter of how you go about it and to say this is unheard of just isn't right. >> i would ask both of you, this just gets to the point you're making. there is a normal conversations process for resolving disputes between the house and the senate, is that correct? >> yes. >> that process hasn't occurred here, mr. collins. i think that's what you're telling me. it doesn't serve neatly into the speaker's impeachment at christmas timeline, to borrow your way of looking at it. we're not really engaged. this is a normal give or take where both sides manage to avoid an exchange where they might lose something. but all of that has been set
with mueller and other times, mr. mueller actually got rid of documents that i never did. melody engel and i had enganld. it's a matter of how you go about it and to say this is unheard of just isn't right. >> i would ask both of you, this just gets to the point you're making. there is a normal conversations process for resolving disputes between the house and the senate, is that correct? >> yes. >> that process hasn't occurred here, mr. collins. i think that's what you're...
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it has been two years and they waited for the mueller report. and then once the ukraine transcript came out they decided to conduct that investigation and that she argued there is some urgency given the 2020 election. so that is why she very much wants them to hold the vote ahead of christmas. >> stick around. we have more to talk about. possible bad news for nancy pelosi. new reporting on why some democrats are looking at another option that is not impeachment. >>> plus he's back in the usa. president trump welcoming russia foreign minister sergey lavrov and detail of what is happening inside coming up. so bob, what do you take for back pain? before i take anything, i apply topical pain relievers first. salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, non-addictive relief. salonpas lidocaine. patch, roll-on or cream. hisamitsu. most people think as a reliable phone company. but to businesses, we're a reliable partner. we keep companies ready for what's next. (man) we weave security into their business. (second man) virtualize their
it has been two years and they waited for the mueller report. and then once the ukraine transcript came out they decided to conduct that investigation and that she argued there is some urgency given the 2020 election. so that is why she very much wants them to hold the vote ahead of christmas. >> stick around. we have more to talk about. possible bad news for nancy pelosi. new reporting on why some democrats are looking at another option that is not impeachment. >>> plus he's...