in the straits of florida, the thing that troubles me the most is this mugler's who do this for profit, who are taking creative rows either through the bahamas thursday haitians run over to puerto rico, says a constant battle is the smugglers get more daring, but they are smaller numbers in a land border because of the turned value. >> this mugler industry, said on the the increase or decrease? it's an expensive undertaking. my understanding is they charge thousands of dollars, but is if that's something we seen an increase in coming decrease? is that due to economic factors, enforcement, both? the other question i have is it sounds to me like a fast vote through the middle of the caribbean is not necessarily something we would necessarily stop. >> flow of migrants is similar to the flow of drugs. people are very creative and we seen an increase in people doing it for profit. it is expensive, but expensive for poor unfortunate people did or to transfer them and is a dangerous business. as the southwest border constraints and gets more secure, there's a tendency to squeeze something and