someone had a computer fight with muhammad ali and the lightbulb went off. i thought " this is interesting." no one in hollywood had known who rocky was. i used that as a reference of the neighborhood loser going the distance with the champion. does it -- david: does it make you feel good that people actually think rocky is your life story and that you actually are a boxer? sylvester: it befuddles me. david: people actually think you are a boxer. sylvester: i know. they think " they found a fellow that was a pug." a lot of people think im am short on the gray matter and i am more of a rocky character. david: where were you born? sylvester: hells kitchen, new york. grandparents lived in washington dc, then they migrated to bethesda and silver spring, maryland. david: what did your father do. sylvester: my father was a tough guy, but he focused on hair. my mother was too. she was the first one to open up a women's gym called bar-bellas. david: were you a great athlete? sylvester: i was not a physical specimen at all. i had an epiphany when i saw hercules uncha

sylvester: everyone thinks it was watching muhammad ali fighting. that was the fabricated type story. rocky -- marciano, who was my side had a fight with muhammad ali when he was suspended in 1970. the light bulb went off, i cited is sort of interesting. but then again, nobody in hollywood who rocky marciano was, so we 1975, i used that as a reference of the neighborhood loser going the distance with the champion. david: does it surprise you, disappoint you, or make you feel good that people actually think rocky is your life story and that you actually are a boxer? sylvester: if the photos me, it does. david: people think you really were a boxer and this is your life story. sylvester: i know. they thought oh they found some fellow who was. that was -- actually to this day, people think i am more of a rocky character in reality. david: so to go back, where were you born? sylvester: i was born in hells kitchen new york. and then you grew up in silver spring maryland? my parents migrated to bethesda. david: what did your parents do? sylvester: my fathe

sylvester: everyone things i was watching muhammad ali get knocked down. that was a fabricated story. rocky marciano who is basically my size had a computer fight with muhammad ali when he was suspended in 1970. in the light bulb went off. i said this is kind of interesting. but then again, no one in hollywood who who rocky marciano was. so in 1975, it was more contemporary so i use that as a reference of the neighborhood loser going the distance with the champion. david: so does it surprise you, disappoint you or make you feel good that people actually think rocky is your life story and that you actually are a boxer? sylvester: it befuddles me. david: because people really think that this is your life story. sylvester: i know, they thought they found some fellow who was a hug at one time. -- pug at one time. people think that i am a little short on the gray matter and more of a rockyesque character. david: where were you born? sylvester: i was born in hells kitchen. david: then you grew up to some extent in silver spring maryland? what did your parents to

everyone thinks i was watching muhammad ali fighting. that was the fabricated type story. rocky marciano, who was basically my size, had a computer fight with muhammad ali when he was suspended in 1970. and the lightbulb went off. i said, this is kind of interesting. but then again, nobody in hollywood knew who rocky marciano was, so, in 1975, i used that as a reference of the bayonne or the neighborhood loser going the distance with the champion. david: does it surprise you, disappoint you, or make you feel good that people actually think "rocky" is your life story and that you actually are a boxer in life? sylvester: [laughter] it befuddles me. it does. really, it does. david: people think you really were a boxer and this is your life story. sylvester: i know. i know. they thought, oh, they found some fellow who was a pug at one time. that was -- actually, to this day, a lot of people think i'm short on the gray matter and i am more of a rocky-esque character than in reality. david: so, to go back, where were you born? sylvester: i was born in hell's kitchen, new york. d

he used to bring me muhammad ali ties all the time. i should have worn my muhammad ali tie signed by orrin hatch. we used to have great debates. he's that kind of person, that kind of human, grand father, and just a man who loved america and put his mormon faith and america first. i was a great admirer. >> sandra: jeff? >> what i think about in part his legacy is bipartisanship. he was really close friends with senator ted kennedy, and they put a lot of legislation together which they got over -- or they got passed together, and that harkins back to a day that we certainly aren't seeing as often now in 2022 of senators, congressmen and women from both parties working together, to get things passed, even when they're really diametrically opposed in terms of their political beliefs. that's something that senator hatch did, and it is a part of his legacy. >> sandra: we remember orrin hatch, great leader, was admired by so many. thank you very much to our sunday panel. thanks for joining us. we will see you next sunday. >>> up next, a fina

saying i don't talk usually about students, but he loves muhammad ali. in his bible was david remnick's book on ali and he really wanted to be like the greatest at rodeo. and whether one ever meets that it's attains it it's the drive to want to be be that good and why it has that sure tell him the next ken burns series is on muhammad ali so it's i didn't know that i watched hemingway with great. i thought it was all of ken stuff is good, but i'm really enjoyed the hemingway it had enough mixer of footage with the writing and the complications, but i was worried it was going to be more of a kind of takedown of hemingways machoism or something, but i thought they'll dealt with him as a person quite well in that and so muhammad ali is a gold standard because the footage you have of him and we'll be just spectacular back to your children ages 17. yeah, 15 13. yes. okay. what has been your approach because i know i've picked up over the years and we've talked to interview situations that they've traveled an enormous amount with you enormous. how many kind of

i tell you what, he was close to muhammad ali.sondra, and he was to bring me ties, muhammad ali ties all the time. karl is going to cufflinks, i should have worn my muhammad ali tie signed by orrin hatch. and we used to have great debates, but he's that kind of person. you know, that kind of human, the grandfather, and just the man who loves america and really put his faith, his mormon faith, and america first. i was just a great admirer. >> sandra: jeff buried >> what i think about in part of his legacy is bipartisanship. he was really, really close friends with senator ted kennedy, and they put a lot of legislation together, which they got over -- or they got past together, and i hearkens back to we certainly -- a day we certainly aren't seeing now in 2022 of senators, congressmen and women from both parties working together to get things passed even when there really diametrically opposed in terms of their political beliefs. that was something that senator hatch did and as part of his legacy. >> sandra: we remember orrin hatch.

the rope for a boxer is written everything that the great muhammad ali said, the boxer should fluttery and sting. how the bee remembered. let's go to the ring, i wanted to enroll my son in boxing at what age? from which school is closed, they said the emergency building will be demolished more energetically. to whom they are strong of this world, we have been asking for a new building for 10 years, explaining that champions are educating russia, we will constantly win in the past year at the world championships, our guys took two silver medals in pairs, we are moving. you've already put him down twice, to be honest, it can't be, and if they give him the victory now. and as they taught in the gateway, when the punks stick there, yes, you need to control yourself and restrain yourself so as not to kill them, but in the ring you are a fighter and opposite you are the same, a boxer fighter. go by unanimous decision of the judges the victory in the duel was won by alexei garin coach nikolai alexandrovich suvorov drove his hands. well, everything, everything now in the perm city will go des

did he really hit you, and he looked at me and said, yeah, and he goes i just took a punch from muhammad alionly chris can. he was ipjoke mode but you could tell he was still very much in shock. >> reporter: smith played in a film muhammad ali. showing a new angle of the incident this time filmed from behind smith's wife jada pinkett smith. packer says that los angeles police were prepared to arrest smith that night. >> and they were saying this is battery. we will go get him. you can press charges. you can arrest him. as they were talking chris was, he was being very dismissive of those options. he was like no, i'm fine. >> the academy of motion pictures arts and sciences released a statement this week saying they asked smith to leave and he refused. academy leaders had told smith's publicist to deliver a message to the actor. now packer is saying chris rock did not want smith removed from the show. >> they were about to physically remove smith. i said rock has made it clear that he does not want to make a bad situation worse. >> reporter: packer praised rock for how he handled the situatio

: and will smith played the boxer muhammad ali in a film in 2003.f the incident this time filmed from behind will's wife jada pinkett smith. >> and they were saying it is battery, and we will go get him, and we will press charges, and we will arrest him, but as they were talking, chris was being dismissive of those options, and saying, no, i am fine. >> the academy of motion arts and sciences released a statement saying they asked smith to leave, and he refused, and then he told cnn that they had asked his publicist to deliver the message to him. and they were going to physically remove will smith, and rock has made it clear that he does not want to make a bad situation worse. >> reporter: packer praised rock for how he handled the situation. >> did he save the show that night? >> i think that he did. he certainly staged what was left of it that night. chris handled the moment with such grace and aplomb. >> reporter: and rock told a stage in boston that he is still processing it. thursday he faced a heckler who said "f will smith." and rock repeated

our newest ones are "i am muhammad ali" and "i am malala."w to fight back. right? and that was vital to do those >> seth: and they're really -- i should stress, you know, they're beautifully written books. they don't shy away from issues, but they're also incredibly palatable. and i find it a great way to introduce ideas to my kids that way. and some of them were taken off bookshelves for a brief period >> they were it's great i mean, they literally banned our books, "i am rosa parks" and "i am martin luther king jr. i got a call from fox news, from cnn, from msnbc. they all wanted to have me on. they were like, "this is a travesty." when fox news and cnn and msnbc agree, you know you screwed up >> seth: yeah, yeah. >> right you know you went too far. and we fought really hard against the school board in pennsylvania the students in the area and the activists in the area, we spoke at the school board meeting. we got the ban overturned. we told everyone, "if you want to see this overturned, you have to take the lessons of doctor king and rosa

abstinence is harmful to men's health, harmful, probably, i 'm scratching my head, for example, muhammad alielieved that the responsibility of the competition. it must be refrained from growing from outside we know monks there and so on, but i personally believe that harmful, you too here you see how you can find a common language quickly with each other next question. how to clean the blood vessels, it's too much cholesterol , i'm at a loss with this question, but i can just assume that it's possible, well, bad habits also affect this at school, but in fact, right because you can't clean it in any way already what is, then eat, but you can prevent their pollution or blockage you are already giving up bad habits from smoking overeating. here , sitting on the couch and so on and so forth. how much painkillers a month can lead to the development of drug-induced headache? well, i ’ll tell you how i try to use them in general in minimal quantities, but perhaps it’s a lot every day, or once a week. well, it's so clean for me close to the truth once a week. it 's four tablets. in fact, every other

muhammad ali. dickens or shakespeare? dickens. oh, man, you'rejoking?as a right answer and a wrong answer, but i'll forgive you that. how much time do you spend in the gym each week? not enough. how much tea and coffee do you drink? not a lot. do you believe in god? no. do you eat meat? i do, but i try to avoid it. person from history you'd most like to meet? probably. . . harriet tubman. why? because my great—great—grandmother was a slave. the concept of a person having the bravery and the ingenuity to design something that's nicknamed the underground railroad, i would love to meet that mind. the fact that it was a woman blows me away, and that she was so effective at doing it. thank you so much for being so generous with your time today. thank you very much. # these are the good times... today wasn't quite as cold as yesterday, because the wind wasn't as strong, but we have still ended the week with temperatures below par for the time of year. we take that chilly arctic air into the start of the weekend with us. however, as we move into next week, a s

. >> i just took a punch from muhammad ali, as only chris can. >> reporter: the first time oscars producers thought, like many who watched, that smith and rock were putting on an act. >> once i saw will yelling at the stage with such vitriol, my heart dropped, and i just remember thinking,s oh, no. >> reporter: the academy claims it asked smith to leave, but the actor refused. packer says there were conversations among academy leaders to have smith physically removed. >> i said, "rock has made it clear that he does not want to make a bad situation worse. >> how was your weekend? ( laughter ) >> reporter: rock was back to doing staling fans in boston that he is still processing what happened. >> so... at some point i'll talk about it. >> reporter: packer credits chris rock for saving the oscars. >> chris handled the moment with such grace and aplomb, it allowed the show to continue. >> reporter: now, smith reportedly apologized to academy leaders on a zoom call. however, he is still facing disciplinary actions that could include expulsions or surintentions from the academy. major. >> garrett

muhammad ali. dickens or shakespeare? dickens. oh, man, you'rejoking?hat's the only question which has a right answer and a wrong answer but i'll forgive you that. how much time do you spend in the gym each week? not enough. how much tea and coffee do you drink? erm... not a lot. do you believe in god? no. do you eat meat? i do, but i try to avoid it. person from history you'd most like to meet? probably... ..harriet tubman. why? because... ..my great—great—grandmother was a slave. the concept of a person having the bravery and the ingenuity to design something that's nicknamed the underground railroad, i would love to meet that mind. the fact that it was a woman blows me away and that she was so effective at doing it. thank you so much for being so generous with your time today. thank you very much. # these are the good times...# hello there. there's warmer weather on the way for next week, which i'm sure will be a welcome change. this weekend, though, has been cold, and it's going to be frosty again tonight, before we see cloud amounts tending to incr

he goes, i just took a punch from muhammad ali, as only chris can. he was immediately in joke mode.ut you could tell that he was very much still in shock. he was telling me, i'm fine. let's just get past this. i'm getting out of here. i can't believe this happened. >> reporter: the lapd already on the scene for security then speaking to chris rock in packer's office. >> they were saying, this is battery. we will go get him. we are prepared. we're prepared to get him right now. you can press charges. we can arrest him. as they were talking, chris was -- he was being very dismissive of those options. he was like, no, i'm fine. he was like, no, no, no. >> reporter: the academy says will smith was asked to leave, but that he refused. but once there was no arrest, it would have been the academy's decision to physically remove smith. a lot of folks immediately wondered why he got up, walked that far, assaulted somebody, went back to a seat and was allowed to stay. what was the conversation behind the scenes? >> shayla told me that they were about to physically remove will smith, and i had

some of the all—time greats have headlined at madison square garden, the likes of muhammad ali, joe frazierrano and katie taylor will join the illustrious list of those who have headlined here, the first woman to do so at this iconic venue and to sell it out. 25,000 people in to watch two of the best pound for pound fighters go head—to—head in a hugely exciting bout. also significant and lucrative, they will make over $1 million each from tonight because my cash in, and i hope that this fight will inspire the next generation of fighters and to further break down barriers in the sport. all the ingredients there for this to be a great night. for more than 100 years, scout groups have offered young people across the world the chance to embrace their adventurous side and learn skills for life. and membership is currently booming here in the uk and across the world. helen mulroy has been spending the day with some scouts in england. we are round the campfire in bedfordshire today and this is because scouting numbers are up, they have risen 16% in the last year here in the uk, with the biggest ri

it's like watching a great muhammad ali fight where all the focus is on. one moment fans from all over the bay area and beyond this couple on vacation from france. tell me they bought a pair of tickets for $800 for the nosebleed section and embraced all things warriors because i like it's very nice fans have high expectations for the six time nba champions. to go on to the next round. steph is healthy players solid, at least 25 a game. we're good players play off of like paul is the key. we can do it. i'm not worried. one day dream is to take this hat and put it on draymond green's head. in the championship parade. despite a close game fans left with a lot of confidence in the warriors, they say. bring on round two in san francisco amberleigh ktvu. fox two news. welcome televised . ali is reporting an increase in covid cases following the music festivals the past two weekends. chronicle reports that the coachella valley music and arts festival drew tens of thousands of visitors. to the empire polo club in indio, nearby hotels, resorts and restaurants of th

some of the all—time greats have headlined at madison square garden, the likes of muhammad ali, joe frazierave headlined here, but be the first women to do so at this iconic venue and to sell it out. 25,000 people in to watch two of the best pound for pound fighters go head—to—head in a hugely exciting bout. also significant but lucrative, they will make over $1 million each from tonight they hope that this fight will inspire the next generation of fighters and to further break down barriers in the sport. all the ingredients there for this to be a great night. the italian football coach, carlo ancelotti, has become the first man to lead teams to victory in the five top european leagues. his latest triumph, with real madrid in spain, comes after previous wins in italy, england, germany and france. a a—0 victory over espanyol took them 17 points clear of second—placed sevilla with four games to play. for more than 100 years, scout groups have offered young people across the world the chance to embrace their adventurous side and learn skills for life. and membership is currently booming here i

kennedy: remember, for some context, it was before muhammad ali and some others would be so outspoken. before he took that job with chock full of nuts, he also had a job with the naacp recruiting and working in the southern regions. as i mentioned earlier, he was a newspaper columnist where he sometimes wrote about sports but mainly about issues of social concern and civil rights. he was engaged with martin luther king. they were at the "dream" speech, jackie and the whole family were there and up front. he worked specifically with martin luther king on repairing some burned churches in georgia. that was a project that king asked him to take on that he did. he publicly feuded with malcolm x, although when malcolm x was assassinated, respected him greatly for being part of the same cause, but they argue publicly about the way to go about it. he was just simply, as a speaker, as an engager, always there. he also had certain projects such as he started a low income housing construction company shortly before his death. there was a black-owned bank in harlem that he was part of. he was at

you mention some of the famous names, the likes of muhammad ali, dennis lewis, mike tyson.lustrious list, as the first women to headline here at madison square garden. if the atmosphere yesterday was anything to go by, it will be terrific. the noise in there was absolutely incredible. 20,000 absolutely incredible. 20 , 000 shoehorned absolutely incredible. 20,000 shoehorned in here, the irish and puerto rican are coming, and the style of these two fighters should make for a great occasion and i think it is going to be terrific tonight. think it is going to be terrific toniaht. :, :, think it is going to be terrific toniiht. :, :, , think it is going to be terrific toniaht. :, :, , ., , , tonight. taylor holds all the belts, but it is amanda _ tonight. taylor holds all the belts, but it is amanda seranno - tonight. taylor holds all the belts, but it is amanda seranno who i tonight. taylor holds all the belts, but it is amanda seranno who is l tonight. taylor holds all the belts, i but it is amanda seranno who is the favourite. how do you see this playing out? it’s favourite.

he goes, i just took a punch from muhammad ali. >> reporter: the lapd on scene asking rock if he liked him. >> rock declined. >> reporter: packer said there were plans to physically remove submit. academy confirmed to leave the ceremony, but refused. packer explained. >> i said rock has made it clear that he does not want to make a bad situation worse. >> reporter: the comedian said he is not ready to comment. >> i'm still kind of processing. >> reporter: the academy has yet to say what smith will face. itis fair to say the resignation will not absolve smith from the next move. the next board meeting is april 18th. kristen and peter. >> the situation is heartbreaking and awful. i feel for the winners whose moment was missed. lady gaga. >> and historic night for so many reasons. that got overshadowed by that one awful moment. chris rock really a model there in that moment. >>> we want to take a turn and check in with somara with another check of the forecast. we're in a spring mood and you are talking about snow? >> oh, kristen. >> i took your line. >> great minds think alike. say it ai

muhammad ali and i always talked about that.ody's life and how they're going to touch yours. so, pay atensh. attention. actively listen. >> billy jean king, you've touched my life and continue to. you're my hero. thanks for visiting with us today. >> thanks, andrea. >> a real pioneer. urgent calls for russians to allow civilians out and humanitarian aid in. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. reports"c if an oral treatment is right for you. oral treatments can be taken at home and must be taken within 5 days from when symptoms first appear. if you have symptoms of covid-19, even if they're mild don't wait, get tested quickly. if you test positive and are at high risk for severe disease, act fast ask if an oral treatment is right for you. covid-19 moves fast and now you can too. every year we try to exercise more, to be more social, to just relax. and eating healthy every single meal? if only it was this easy for us. >>> ukraine's top negotiator says there is still room to get back to the table but it's difficult to

as his trial opened up, international criminal court alley, muhammad ali abdur rahman was a leader of the government backed as angie we'd, fighters, those are the headlines, and the news continues. head on al jazeera, after despair and defiance. ah ah allison to come up with the leukemia zalinski resilience seems to be holding his country together. he also understands how to win global support. when he addressed the u. s. congress, he focused on the fate of ukraine's children. now i am almost 45 years old. to day my age stopped when the hearth or more than 100 children stop beating. i see no sense in lab. if it cannot stole the death, zelinski speech was an appeal to hearts and minds in america and the top of his agenda and nato no fly zone of ukrainian cities and towns. said the rory of o u robin nearby to la, nay. michaela v cindy sat there all you im across more properties of iep when he did sleep or, or any boy that's a dental or he, by their belief program story cannot agree, you know, best followed mazano. she but says, or by god, sad. but if the what the lou day strong doesn't

he goes, i just took a punch from muhammad ali, as only chris can.still in shock. >> reporter: packer says the lapd came to his office and wanted to talk to rock. chris rock, he says, had the power at that moment to have smith arrested. >> and they were saying this is battery. we will go get him. we are prepared. we're prepared to get him right now. you can press charges. we can arrest him. as they were talking, chris was -- um -- he was being very dismissive of those options. he was like, no, i'm fine. he was like no, no, no, and even to the point where i said, rock, let 'em -- let 'em finish and they said, you know, would you like us to take any action? and he said no. >> reporter: the academy says it asked will smith to leave the ceremony. one source telling cnn they firmly asked smith's publicist but that he refused. some published accounts dispute the claim that smith was asked to leave. packer told abc what another production team member told him. >> that they were about to physically remove will smith. and i had not been a part of those conver

madison square garden think about some of the all—time great who would perform here, the likes of muhammad alihe not just natural for the two of us but for— not just natural for the two of us but for the — not just natural for the two of us but for the whole sport as well as a burning _ but for the whole sport as well as a burning down barriers and that's what _ burning down barriers and that's what i've — burning down barriers and that's what i've always wanted to do. as for what i've always wanted to do. for amanda what i've always wanted to do. is for amanda serrano what i've always wanted to do. sis for amanda serrano commission is victory on sunday night can catapult her into superstardom and give her the crossover appeal she you so craved over the years without the odds—makers have her as a heavy favourite and will be trying to give katie taylor all the problems on saturday night and it could be really tough like the call. emma raducanu has won herfirst match since splitting with coach torben beltz earlier this week. she beat the world number 49 tereza martincova in straight sets in the

>> the difference between tiger and every other athlete including michael jordan and muhammad ali, he not be into golf. when he plays, the ratings double. there is no athletes in any professional sport that has a profound effect in the sport besides tiger woods. >> truth social, his new platform, now 10,000 a day of subscribers and they're not showing up on the social app. if you invested in truth social, you lost 40% of your money. >> no kidding. >> another winning game for donald trump. >> what about a nice reveal here, olivia dubrowska. >> tell us about her. >> an amazing movie. it was all black and white and there was one little girl in a red coat that would show up in the movie. she's now 33 years old and living in poland, running humanitarian mission for the ukrainians. there is something ironic that this woman is a victim of genocide ends up helping other victims of genocide. >> donny, i want you to stay with us. this brand thing is huge. >> we want to award you for it. >> now, willie, you tweeted out that you wanted something. you can not always get what you want but sometimes

his hero is -- he doesn't mind me saying, but he loves muhammad ali. his bible was the book on ali. and he wanted to be like the greatest at rodeo. it had a enough mixture of footage with the writing and the complications, but i was worried there was going to be more of a kind of takedown of hemingway but they dealt with him. so he's a gold standard. >> back to your children, ages 17 to 13? what has been your approach? we talked that they traveled an north mouse amount with you. >> enormous. >> how many kind of places did you take them and why? >> they have become my magic bus trips. we go everywhere. i take them to historic sites and national parks. hope it rubs off. they complain about it some depending on the circumstances. but i found ways to mix it up. we're trying to visit every baseball stadium in america. so if you go to see the cubs in chicago, we then also go to the chicago arts institute or visit jane adams house. we do things that are history related to the trip and the baseball game is a payoff. we all like it. my wife has become a big baseball fanatic. but mainly we go

themselves integrated and celebrated in a multicultural american society that was falling in love with muhammad ali and michael jordan and michael jackson, but in which many african-americans remained in a state of poverty in a state of deprivation, where now, the phenomenons of mass incarceration begins to pick up momentum, the defining dynamics, the relationships between african-american communities and law-enforcement begins to crystallize, a context in which it is worth pointing out law-enforcement departments in those eras were frequently themselves corrupted by the money that was passing through the black market, drug market, harlem new york city, los angeles and chicago. it is important to remember that this history is not very far behind us. now, none of this negates the reality of the fact that ultimately it is our capacity to build up our own ability to govern ourselves, to succeed in the marketplace of ideas, the economies, the cultivation of skills to the building of social capital. none of this is to negate the effectiveness and the subsidy of conservative solutions towards -- to our m

not a perfect man by any means, but certainly is in that rare air muhammad ali, michael jordan.e of those transcendent athletes in the fact that he was able to walk the course which is one of the hardest walks in golf with all of that hills and undulations on that surgically repaired right leg screws and plates and bolts e says my right leg doesn't look anything like my left leg even now i set up tonight. he finished one under par 4 shots off the lead. just a tremendous day and another comeback for tiger. unbelievable. it's, you know, but he was saying he wasn't worried about the gulf. he was just worried about walking the course of making it and it's done both. one of hopefully for days that he'll have to do that and you know that the happiest people other than tiger might be the network executives, the rights to the because people are watching and that wraps speaking of people are we have to take off. we're hag to our good friends. you know, whatever happens during the rest of the tournament, what happened today will be a big part of the big bio pic that comes out only about t

mentioning muhammad ali, ken burns. can is not going to do evel knievel, but he seen too much of an off figure, or whatever, but knievel in his day was attracting mass sports audiences on abc. when i saw him he was a born again christian living with his wife who was younger than him, a very nice person, and he was eating a lollipop like a morphine lollipop that looked like something you would get as sugar candy, or whatever, type of thing. i'm not exaggerating, he broke every bone in his body. he had a liver transplant. and yet the spirit was there and it was a very wolverine like old pioneer spirit that you don't see any more. he was like that part of butte up there where the winters and the mining, he wanted to see what real western gold rush in the yukon or something is like, he was a remnant from all of that. living now in florida. the one thing that i remember the most is, i want to show you something. he opened the drawer and openness and envelope and it was $100,000 of travelers checks. he said every man needs $1