ali muhammad ali - this is the correct answer for the gold of the 1961 rome olympics, we continue. who more often became the absolute world champion in the heavyweight category? muhammad ali ali is the absolute correct answer. he was the champion from 1964 to 66th, and also 74th to 78th tyson became the undisputed champion from 87 to 90s. who has more titles boxer of the year? mike tyson sorry wrong correct answer muhammad ali six times tyson only two times we continue. which of them, from their sports merit, is included in the guinness book of records certificate for the largest number of the fastest knockouts and for becoming the youngest world heavyweight champion. and we continue with our next block of comparison two famous basketball players from the los angeles lakers and lebron james are playing basketball. who is taller? james 206 cm kobe bryant total 198 correct answer lebron james which one of them was chosen as his the club with the first number of the draft coffee bryan correct answer or bron james in 2003 the team of the cleveland cavaliers kobe brian was selected with the thirteenth number of the draft in 1996. who became the champion of the nba mine more of

muhammad ali get knocked down. that was a fabricated story. rocky marciano who is basically my size had a fight with muhammad ali when he was suspended in 1970.nd the light bulb went off. i said, this is kind of interesting. but then again, no one in hollywood knew who rocky marciano was. so in 1975, it was more contemporary so i use that as a reference of the neighborhood loser going the distance with the champion. david: so, does it surprise you, disappoint you or make you feel good that people actually think "rocky" is your life story and that you actually are a boxer? sylvester: it befuddles me. [laughs] david: because people really think that this is your life story. sylvester: i know, they thought they found some fellow who was a pug at one time. people think that i am a little short on the gray matter and more of a rockyesque character. david: to go back, where were you born? sylvester: i was born in hells kitchen, new york. david: then you grew up to some extent in silver spring, maryland? sylvester: the grandparents lived in washington, d.c. and then we moved to bethesda, maryland. david: what did your parents do? sylvester: my fathe

muhammad ali. [video clip] >> he is 22 years old. and he is standing up to the whole establishment. david: why did you decide to focus on muhammad ali? what was your interest in him? ken: well, he is one of the most compelling figures in american history. he certainly intersects with all the major issues of the last half of the 20th century. the role of sports in society, the role of the black athlete in sports, the definitions of black manhood and black masculinity and the civil rights movement. not as a fixed thing, but as an ongoing developing thing. the story of politics, of race. the central american question. freedom. it is also about faith and religion and islam, about sex and all these things because human nature does not change. or things we are grappling with today. when you have a larger-than-life mythic figure like ali, he just lights up page after page of history. he is irresistible and is a way to communicate some complex undertow about not just the u.s. but who we are. david: how long did it take you to do that series? ken: we said yes to this in 2013. we began work in 2014. real earnest production and shooting of most of the stuff began in 2016, the year he died. so you could say that it took eight years or seven years but, you know, there is fundraising involved, there are other projects that you're giving your attention to at different times. what we need is that period of time to do the research, to do the deep dive on the archives and to be able to come up and say we think we really got him, or at least that we have materials that show the kind of dynamics and the dimensions, the contradictions, even the controversies, the flaws of a character and not have it merely be a resuscitation of conventional wisdom. david: so when muhammadli -- did you initially seek his approval or his family's approval or not? ken: no, we never operate that way. we can't operate that way in pbs because we so completely, we have to have a separation of church and state. we did have cooperation from family members in that they gave the photographs, they gave us access. we were able to interview two of his ex-wives. we interviewed two of his daughters, his brother, friends, family, hangers on, scholars. all of that sort of stuff, the kind of triangulation we want to do. david: when you see boxers today, professional boxers, they seem awfully bulked up. they have muscles, maybe because of stimulants they are taking or they have better training, but he did not seem like an overly muscular person. what was his strength as a fighter? was he as fast as anybody else? what was it that made him such a great boxer? it was not because he was so strong, was it? ken: well, he trained. he was very, very disciplined most of his life. he usually lost w