muhammaed ali, i'm the greatest of all times! dr. king, i'm sorry, ali, i'm sorry. [laughter]. now, you can't beat out dr. kinkdr. king, dr. martin lur king. i just loved to hear dr. king's laughter. he had jovial laughter. most of the times i would like at him, he would like so serious, he might look sad, but that's what i've held on to, his laughter. any time i heard him, i said "oh, dr. king is happy, dr. king is happy." yes, just -- just such an honor and such a wonderful feeling to have been able to stand next to this man and the -- to shake his hand, this great -- this great, great, man, dr. martin luther king. >> back stage i asked you if you and the staples singers were at the march on washington. >> we were over there in london, we had no business over there. [laughter]. we missed -- we missed the march on washington. but we recorded, we wrote songs, marched -- it's a long walk to d.c. but i got my walking shoes on. and oh, we would sing -- >> you were there in spirit, weren't you? >> i was there in spirit. but london didn't have nothing for me, you know. they didn't e