>> well, i think it is not completely untrue, because i think muhammed gadhafi was really in the hands of the opposition forces and they gave him -- they guaranteed his security and his safety and left him at home and then he escaped. anyway, i think maybe there is -- there is something wrong with the security system of the opposition certainly, but it is understandable in a question like tripoli, a very large city with two -- almost two million inhabitants and with the opposition forces coming, many of them from the outside of the city, so mistakes can take place. but anyway, i am not sure whether saif al islam was in the hands of the opposition or not, but muhammed, certainly he was in their hands. >> thank you very much, mr. ambassador. i've actually got reza here who's an expert. put this in some kind of context for us because clearly this information as one of the people said there is part of life in libya. it's very important for the credibility of everyone involved here that we can believe what we've been told by the rebels. what do you make of what's going on? >> obviously ther