bin laden saw himself as mujahadeen, somebody who was going to renew the religion, right? he also saw himself as a revival ist, in other words, of the religion in addition to a great leader of jihad and his vision was he alone, amongst all of humanity understood the true version of islam and he was going to impose that version of islam on people whether they wanted it or not. we've seen what that looks like in places like iraq and anbar province, for instance and northern mali or somalia where it has been rejected. but in any case, his vision of going back to the original islam, and he was making this up as he went along, in some ways reminds one of the reformation in europe. so if bin laden is sort of like, and please if there are any lutherance in the resume don't take this, if bin laden is calvin or luther what role do we play? we're the ottoman empire. that is who we are. we are people with conflicting relationship with this part of world and people who are not trusted and looked at a little bit askance, right? we're trying to make an argument to the pope that we can s