it's a database it's a list of ex mujahideen and the next generation would go dean who are employed in civil wars around the world so the al-qaeda is not an organisation i believe and many would agree with me that it has offices and a hierarchy as such it's more of a brand do you think that the u.s. is going to release photographs or evidence of the fate of bin ladin of his corpse a burial at sea do you think that would be a wise decision. you know what if i was to bit and it was a betting man i would say that there will be no photographs and no videos released at all at the best we're going to get grainy videos of some kind of a raid and we might if we're lucky get a photograph of a mutilated corpse there's been really a lot of controversy in the actual identification process of this. corpse in the last two days the first. claim that they've had to d.n.a. testing that was matched against his sister who died of brain cancer reuters reported but no there hasn't been d.n.a. testing yet and meanwhile the u.s. has said they dumped his body in the arabian sea twenty four hours after catchin

the nine eleven attacks we have to remember that the united states policy of currently arming the mujahideen in afghanistan. back in the eighty's had of course contributed so much to the current situation that we have on the ground today and it's one of those things that unfortunately in washington sort of gets really lost in the mix you know we don't really see the consequences of certain foreign policy actions as they relate to to the present new developments on the ground. lottie's military analysts currently a guinea told r.t. how the very movements the u.s. wants back to freedom fighters in afghanistan became a turn this year. it was the perpetrator of the anti soviet jihad which was used as a proxy war against the soviet union by the medium of the jihadi counterinsurgency of their time it was cool some of the ludden turned out as the one of the main financier and organizer of the arab mercenaries who came to make money to spread their violent and extremist ideology the reach was financed jointly by the saudi arabia but mostly directed and trained by the united states of america and orc

eighties and you know in their fight against the soviet troops subsequently the same mujahideen militants turned their weapons and training against the us among those supported by the us was osama bin ladin whose were potentially involved into al qaida but like i say i said there is a lot of cheerleading going on in washington right now and it seems many find it more comforting to think only in terms of justice is being served and evil punished rather than also look at the other side of the double edged sword which is america's war on terror and turning to a new so now russia is no stranger to al qaeda linked terror movements tell us more about that. matter russia most certainly is no stranger to the threat of terror is specially in its color titled north caucasus region where special forces there are constantly on the offensive against domestic chart networks and internationally wanted terrorists like doku umarov but that's said moscow has of course and understandably helped the death of osama bin ladin say that it's a major step and symbol to the global terror prices also say that it ho

early eighty's was an open cia assets that were opposing against the soviets and working with the mujahideen times change i mean it was fine for someone else then back in two thousand and one and it wasn't the only god in afghanistan against the soviets so i think every time you could argue what would convince you when the photos convince you is that kind of what we debunked a conspiracy theory that ron paul says the white house invites with this confusion well the white house says that they have a live video feed so why can't the american public to get at least portions of that we haven't seen a video from this man in years and the videos that were put out aren't intended by many experts to be our right so again what can we believe from this criminal administration that did nothing to prosecute the war crimes of the previous administration that has done nothing to get us out of these wars of aggression and that will be continued in the middle east and south africa with this libya situation so no i won't buy the photographs in fact the press ran with it openly photo shopped photograph it was

lot of people's attention that as you mention bin laden was trained as a freedom fighter in the mujahideen in afghanistan to fight against the soviets which is where he learned as you said how to bankrupt the empire now of course america is going in and training the libyan rebels and it won't be long before the libyan rebels turn against the united states as these things always seem to happen i guess my main main concern is that it would be much better for them to have courtroom and tried him because then the muslim world would have seen proof or been provided that he was a criminal that he did do these terrorist actions and so on and i think that would have diffused a lot of hostility the fact that he was basically taken out and there's. the amount of money that america has spent because surely it's enough to just gas people or not kill them take them alive but of course americans don't want to hear the other side of the story of what america has done in the middle east and what has provoked these kinds of attacks so i'm concerned that there's going to be retaliatory strikes which are goi

here and funding the mujahideen through pakistan, the u.s. the militants to regroup and regather strength. so a lot of concern here that that situation not repeat itself. and all of this being brought to light after the death of osama bin laden because it is shining a new light on this situation and provoking people to ask these very important questions, fredricka? >> if there's even a sense of relief that washes over afghanistan, ultimately he was not found and killed in afghanistan and that perhaps people can really see that perhaps whatever their normal is there, that perhaps they might be able to resume to some normalcy there? >> reporter: you know, the ongoing battle here really is with the taliban. you speak to some people, they say, bin laden perhaps wasn't the potent factor that he was prior to 2001 after the u.s. invasion here and the toppling of the taliban government and bin laden fled across the border into pakistan, that he wasn't the presence that he had been before that. but the taliban remain a real presence, a really viable t

notion the us has a track record of policies that backfired like arming and training the afghan mujahideen in the 1980's in their fight against the soviet troops subsequently the same which are hitting militants turned their weapons and training against the us among those supported by the us was also some of bin ladin whose group eventual evolved into al qaida one great program. great. good one lesson was learnt victory over evil makes great television and approval ratings for the man in charge . obama said that he had known about bin laden's whereabouts sees august last year but only last week had he given the order to take him it's been two weeks he's obama and now it's his reelection plants he's been slipping in the polls over inconclusive wars overseas and economic woes at home has actually led to the president of the united states being beatified almost more than the you know the pope's you know kind of accolades to john paul this is you know obama is cashing in on this everything for everything that it's worth and you'll notice in his speech last night he kept stressing several times

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escalate the conflict as we remember from the united states when the saudi arabians are financing the mujahideenin afghanistan against the soviets simply raise the stakes and watch the numbers of casualties number of military forces a very blunt instrument you can't guarantee what will happen but you can probably they stay on the history of every war you go to see and hear and see that a lot more people will be killed as the weapons are improved if they give it to the transitional national council in libya who are fighting a war against gadhafi surely your international arms merchants and other we're on the black market in buy weapons just to get out it will as well do to replenish its own stocks and it would be a great goldmine for the arms to probably not very good for the. in the chain of uprisings in the arab world the internet was credited with playing a major part as protests were coordinated on websites such as facebook and twitter there's been a much more sinister side to those social networks according to the wiki leaks founder julian assange who has been speaking exclusively to us here

nine eleven attacks we have to remember that the united states' policy of correctly arming the mujahideen in afghanistan. back in the eighty's had of course contributed so much to to the current situation that we have on the ground today and that's it's one of those things that unfortunately in washington sort of gets really lost in the mix you know we don't really see the consequences of certain foreign policy actions as they relate to to the present new developments on the ground. well for more on the its national tariff spoke to our teams correspondents within the culture russia's north caucasus or at least on the way in what struck us is gravelly celebrations of what are calling a victory and justice being served thousands of people gathered outside the white house chanting usa usa but in all these celebrations what i think is being lost is the question of what now what does that mean for global terrorism i mean when was the last time we heard osama bin ladin take credit for a major terror it's three years and that's because the last terror attack on a major global city was on moscow

them it will certainly escalate the conflict as we remember from the united states financing the mujahideen in afghanistan against the soviets simply raised the stakes and increased the numbers of candidates i think give it to the. transitional national council in libya who are fighting a war against gadhafi surely they're going to go to international arms merchants in the black market in buy weapons they're calling for regime change and turning it over turning the country over to this rapidly creating gnc which. is composed of a lot of ex regime members and clearly saw the window in the other way and more to be on the winning side in their commitment to democracy historically has been absolutely no. and in syria tanks and the security forces have reportedly moved into the southern town of tough us making arrests all along the way this comes a day after at least six people were killed as syrian troops swept through the coastal city of bam e.-s. suppressing government demonstrators officials are blaming armed terrorist groups for the rest while protesters say they just want an end to decades

and we remember from the united states financing the mujahideen in afghanistan against the soviets simply raise the stakes and increase the numbers of casualties if they give it to the. transitional national council in libya who are fighting a war against gadhafi surely they're going to go to international arms merchants and other would be on the black market in buy weapons they're calling for regime change and turning it or turning the country over to this rapidly created t.n.c. which. is composed of a lot of extra xii members and clearly saw the wind blowing the other way in war and be on the winning side in their commitment to democracy historically has been absolutely nil. the driving force behind nato intervention in libya is the subject of constant international scrutiny and i was artie's lore and it reports there all of those who believe the alliance may have been trying to prevent gaddafi from bearing the american buck. according to some it's about protecting civilians we must not tolerate this regime using military force against its own people of the say it's about oil the only r

the nine eleven attacks we have to remember that the united states policy of currently arming the mujahideen in afghanistan. back in the eighty's had of course contributed so much to the current situation that we have on the ground today and that's it's one of those things that unfortunately in washington sort of gets really lost in the mix you know we don't really see the consequences of certain foreign policy actions as they relate to to the present developments on the ground. nascar has welcomed the news of the death of bin laden and once again underlined the need for a joint efforts in the fight on terror but critics already warned it's too early to celebrate what is largely a symbolic victory earlier my colleague carrie johnson spoke with ortiz correspondence between a coach and over in russia's north caucasus and he said no way in moscow the u.s. is reveling in celebrations of what are calling a victory and justice being served but in all these celebrations what i think is being lost is the question of what now what does that mean for global terrorism i mean when was the last time we h

them it will certainly escalate the conflict as we remember from the united states financing the mujahideen in afghanistan against the soviets simply raised the stakes and increased the numbers of casualties i think given the transitional national council who are fighting a war against gadhafi surely they're going to go to international arms merchants and work on the black market in buy weapons there calling for regime change and turning it over turning the country over to this rapidly created t.n.c. which. is composed of a lot of ex regime members and clearly saw the wind blowing the other way in war and be on the winning side in your commitment to democracy historically has been absolutely no. more speculation has been raised on the reasons for nato is intervention in libya as r.t. as more and it reports the organization may have been trying to prevent khadafi from bearing the american back. according to some it's about protecting civilians we must not tolerate this regime using military force against its own people others say it's about oil the only. marriages that have. your oil think w

>> we >> well, bin laden, of course course, goes back to the afghan afghan mujahideen days when he wase year for much o much of the arab mujahideen fighti fighting the soviet union in afghan afghanistan in the '80s. but re but really in the 1990s he conver converted himself into a global global terrorist. and i and in 1996 issued his famous famous fat wa, his war agains against america, reiterating that that in 1998, his fatwhat, his his war against all american citize citizens. follow followed then by the embassy bombin bombings in east africa u.s.s. u.s.s. cola tack in 2000 and then then of course the 9/11 attack attacks. bin bin laden has been a central figure figure, ideaologically, symbol symbolically and strate strategically for this al qaeda qaeda movement since the mid '90s. '90s. and i and i think seeing his death is is a critical end to a key chapter chapter in the war on terror. >> mitc >> mitchell: juan czar atta, we wil we will be back to you in a bit. bit. we we are coming up at 11:00 k i'm ru i'm russ mitchell from cbs news news headquarters in new york. york. we are we

has a track record of policies that backfired like arming and training the afghan mujahideen in the nine hundred eighty s. in their fight against the soviet troops subsequently the same with jackie militants turned their weapons and training against the u.s. among those supported by the u.s. has been very well known was also in the bin laden's group of actually. turning to him these are now russia is no stranger to al qaeda linked terror movements what has been a lot of bin laden's death need for this moscow herald but not it's just this significant step in the fight against global terrorism and also voiced hope that it would lead to further cooperation internationally but that said when was the last time we heard of some of the law to take you write it for an international terror attack it was years ago that is not the case here in iraq. so of course the two major terror attacks we've seen on the world stage recently happened right here in moscow first the moscow metro blasts just over a year ago and most recently in january at its international airport so are some of the modern might b

up because the united states after the soviet occupation of afghanistan when it was back in the mujahideen after the soviets retreated the u.s. out of the way ever had got out of the way the cold war ensued the taliban came to power there was a negotiation where the taliban and other elements in the government just kind of put together some honky dory peaceful solution i mean it led to what we thought today so how do you think if he were to get out of the way and want to be a federal war that leads to the same situation we saw back in two thousand and one . well i mean you think you have to reconsider what actually happened after the soviets were driven out of afghanistan i mean what the united states did to to incite that situation was to empower some of these super aggressive anti-woman really conservative warlords in afghanistan and that really set the stage for what happened after it in the in the ensuing decades and so what's necessary for us is to realize that what we're doing by backing the warlords in afghanistan that are associated with the karzai regime and karzai himself is repe

officer commanded large brigades of mujahideen during the one nine hundred eighty s. during the russian afghan war he was a danger because the cia basically is a private mercenary spy grid and enforcement rid of the private central banks i mean you showed earlier for the number one you know main people the u.s. is after all four of them were trained by the u.s. military protected adam gadahn grandad ran the a.d.l. he's known as you know adam the american you had emira lock even the pentagon admits secretly hanging out the secretary of the army while he's on the news is number two under bin laden running the underwear bombing running the fort hood shooter he's a double agent who runs the mentally ill patsies i mean i've interviewed the people that are on the plane with the underwear bomber from amsterdam to detroit and they saw the u.s. government helping get the underwear bomber who looked drugged out of his mind on the plane and i reported that a month and a half. before the state department on said yes we were ordered by an unnamed u.s. intelligence agency to get th

is for why the central government is so weak i mean we were the same people that were arming the mujahideen at the time against the soviets and so what's your take on. do you think people are angry at the u.s. presence there i mean maybe it's. oa i definitely believe so you have you know afghans and again are very brave americans they understand that they're here to help us however you have a lot of the tribal areas in the south especially that resent you know the americans because it's actually attracted far more you know attacks from the insurgents it's increased violence you have all these you know i mean roadside bombs far more civilian casualties so i feel if they are resenting the americans trance so you know but then you do have the advantage mostly in the callable appreciate you know the american presence however however it does need to they need to begin transitioning the process or not so quickly needs to obviously you know it's just a systematic you know process and how far should nation building or democracy building go i mean should america. americans be spending u.s. taxpayer

now president mo rocky is an asset especially expanding the pool of the mujahideen for a bit -- are beyond arabic speakers alsodu appealing to those individuals who have more passed under our radar. but al-maliki is not the leader of aqap there are homegrown of yemenis and the saudis who are the formal in leaders and the operational leaders and we have a tendency sometimes with popular counter terrorismrori and to latch onto one individual that we can identify to know the name into mistake that individual for the organization for the real leadership by don't doubt how -- adderall the professionals across the state are at the lighthousel lighthouse -- white house do but the media or the journalists do tend to be careless and the way they report the roles of these individuals. >> thank you for youlr ye presentation. now, today, in this town looking at important programs on budgetary cutting blocks. i would like your analysis of what projections are likely to surface if people see the united states is not able to pony up the necessary resources as we've transition to reduce the military footp

the afghan mujahideen in afghanistan and he believes that it was the afghan intervention and the humiliating experience of the soviets had in afghanistan was responsible for bringing down the soviet union and unfortunately if you look at what he what the nine eleven operation cost and if you look at what these other smaller operations cost them the underwear bomber all these other things and the exorbitant cost to the united states for dealing with these problems trillions and trillions of dollars his plan hasn't exactly failed her like i said earlier it was every bit as well as that osama bin laden kind of helps get americans educated about all these different factions inside the terror world how they're not all united because people start paying attention to terrorism globally even if it wasn't touching you don't really think that americans are educated about i think you have to have you know there's been some consideration. i've been taliban i've been able to know they do i think people who actually care to follow the news they can understand that there's there's when she iran and sunni a

and then there are mujahideen who are involved in cashmir in india.tuation is more complicated in pakistan all right. >> but there is obvious frustration and concern in america, not least because of course pakistan has a reputed at least 100 nuclear weapons. if the country continues to deteriorate in terms of stability, this becomes a very dangerous situation for the world. >> if pakistan disintegrates, then it can be dangerous. otherwise, if pakistan's integrity is there, which i am sure it will be there, as long as the armed forces of pakistan are there, there is no danger of the nuclear assets or the strategic assets falling into any terrorist hands. >> we talk about disintegration. it's all relative, isn't? 35,000 pakistani people have been killed in terror related incidents since 9/11. there are suicide bombings every week now in pakistan. to a neutral observer, it does appear that your country, pakistan, is going through a form of disintegration. >> well, i wouldn't call it dint congratulations. as ied -- disintegration. as i said, the armed for

and we had mujahideen decided it was our duty to avenge his murder. we will not just wait until we can target obama but we will take our revenge on any of his allies, be they pakistani, iran or americans. >> a memorial service to the cadets who died today. thousands of pakistani soldiers have died fighting the taliban. and now more have died in this terror attack >> sreenivasan: hours after the bombings, pakistani officials reported a u.s. drone attack killed five militants in the northwest. the former first lady of egypt, suzanne mubarak, will be held for 15 days in a corruption probe. authorities issued the order today for the wife of ousted president hosni mubarak. a doctor said she passed out upon hearing the news. the mubaraks are being investigated over claims that they illegally amassed wealth during their years in power. in jordan today, thousands of people demanded a separate palestinian state and the right of palestinian refugees to return home. they waved palestinian flags and sang patriotic songs, and they called for jordan to end its peac

even then, they gave the lion's share of the support that we provided to the mujahideen to radical islamists. but othver the years, how much more do they have to do until we realize they have been lying to us -- the leadership in pakistan have been lying to us and they are allied with people who hate our way of life and wish to do harm to americans. >> a lot of people agree with what you just said, how you characterize their relationship with us. just to put numbers on this, since about 2002, we have given them close to $12 billion in military aid and economic aid, totaling about $18 billion of aid, military and economic. >> and we have $6 billion more in the system that's heading to them. >> here's the question i want to ask. let's see if we can get our arms around this question. what interests do we have in pakistan? let's see if we can tick them off. they are a major nuclear power. is that correct? >> well, i would say they are a nuclear power. they're not a major nuclear power. >> well, i say "major" because the numbers, i think, is they're about to get 100 -- >> yes. and again, what hap

series on the cold war showing video footage of high ranking us officials exhorting the afghans and mujahideen to wage jihad, to go back to their homes, to go back to their mosques, in the name of islam and as a national duty. for us, all of this was real. we have continued to suffer from its effects. is it necessary for us to remind the international community of the decade of the nineties which saw the arab volunteers, who had joined the jihad mutate into al-qaeda? who was responsible for the birth of al-qaeda? who was responsible for making the myth of osama bin laden? to find answers to today's question, it is necessary to revisit the not so distant past. collectively, we must acknowledge facts and see our faces in the mirror of history. pakistan alone cannot be held to account for flawed policies and blunders of others. pakistan is not the birth place of al-qaeda. we did not invite osama bin laden to pakistan or even to afghanistan. it is fair to ask who was osama bin laden and what did he personify? osama bin laden was the most wanted terrorist and enemy number one of the civilized world

the islamist insurgents seized have been read, with the islamic mujahideen spreading to west africa. similar insurgencies are under their weight in yemen, southern thailand, in the north caucasus. the islamic movement in western europe is growing. in britain, the traditional stilt security services are at the point of public despair. as for the united states, bin laden long ago delineated his intentions towards america. the purse is to take advantage of economic situations militarily and lead america into bankruptcy. the second is to spread out u.s. military and intelligence forces to sap their flexibility and exhaust their reserves. to disrupt america's allies and disrupt the unity of america as much as possible. i will leave it to america to decide whether there is any reason for al qaeda or bin laden to be discouraged about the progress the -- they made in the war that began in 1996. the best foreign policy advice for the obama administration, for any u.s. administration, has been heard by anybody that has flown on an airline. during the preflight safety briefing, each passenger i

we were in consultation with academics and we had an ex- mujahideen on staff. there was a history of shedding light on what might happen in these situations. i cannot complain about the quality of people we had working for us. we tried to get the best assessment of what might lead us when we hit the ground. >> if i may just say, i was doing parallel work. i remember a number of meetings and it is not my job to defend politicians and their statements. because we -- there was a failure of intelligence, there were efforts to try to get it right. he did give the task force helicopters, artillery, all of that because we had to be prepared for the unexpected. another of the problem is we could not know enough about the northern part of helmand until we got there. this was no way one could do it. it was located in enemy territory. it was in the area and there was a picture that was positive. the problem was when we went into the north and arguably, -- no one would know that. although that is always going to be a lapses in intelligence, you cannot know everything you w