, 30,000 mujahideen in afghanistan. they are all products of the mujahideen. not only that, in 1996, the taliban emerged. now while from 89 to 96 in afghanistan, about 10 ethnic groups, all were fighting among themselves. a ravage the country and destroy the country. total anarchy in afghanistan. but in 1996, it became taliban, who are all questions, versus northern alliance who was tajik, uzbek, hussars. this continued until my 11. the total ravaging of the country and destruction of the country. as far as pakistan is concerned another element started. freedom struggle in kashmir in indian held kashmir, started in 1989. its impact on pakistan was there were dozens of mujahideen groups have sprung up from our society inside pakistan. volunteers preparing, wanting to go to india part of kashmir to fight the indian army. so therefore an in an effect why have highlighted these elements is that religious militancy was introduced by us from 79, continued in 289. then having abandoned the place by the united states, it contin

mujahideen, 25,000, 30,000 mujahideen. more or less became al qaeda.sama bin laden, shaikh mohammad are all project these of the mujahideen. they become al qaeda now. and out of the, in 1996, taliban emerged. now, why from 89 to 96 in afghanistan, about 10 ethnic groups all were fighting among themselves, the country, and destroyed the country. total anarchy. but in 1996, it became taliban. this country -- [inaudible] a total ravaging of the country, destruction of the country. as far as pakistan is concerned, another element started. freedom struggle in kashmir. its impact on pakistan was that there were dozens of mujahideen groups which sprang up from society inside pakistan, volunteers preparing, wanting pashtun to fight indian army. so, therefore, in effect, these elements, really it was introduced by us from 79-89, then having abandoned the place by united states, it is viewed in a different form of all fighting each other, ethnic group, al qaeda emerge, and freedom struggle, really from the east, from the west of pakistan to the east of pakistan,

did in one thousand nine hundred nine after the soviets left by that i mean they quit funding the mujahideen what happened that al qaeda came to the united states does not want more than anything else there are many reasons why their state which is why they didn't want to start in iraq general allen did say that the reason why clips are staying is since to advise the afghan security forces you yourself think that they are now ready to do it themselves but is there is this a euphemism of sorts i couldn't take his word for it literally. i why i think first of all it's true that the forces are not ready to take over i hope so think you are correct in saying that the euphemism here in the united states is letting contracts to american contractors to build barracks in various air bases around the country and chin dead in the in the west perhaps to watch or to air flights over iran in mazar sharif in the north perhaps watch former soviet central asian republics in kandahar in the southeast perhaps watch pakistan the united states does not have any intention i do not believe to leave in the short t

we attracted 35,000 which in dean -- mujahideen.e recruited trained, armed taliban from pakistan and put them into afghanistan. this continued for 10 long years. there are a touchy point i want to highlight that are significant. -- there are two points that i want to highlight that are significant. this war against the soviet union was spearheading by religious militant groups. this is the one point you need to understand. the second point is that when the soviet union occupied afghanistan, one year before that, they deposed the king. afghanistan was held together through an arrangement, at a national covenant. a national agreement between the four major ethnic groups. they live together, stayed together under the sovereignty of the king. when the soviet union deposed the king, the glue that held afghanistan together was no longer there. when we are talking about political solutions, we are talking about creating another national covenant that will hold the country together, which implies a proportional representation of all of the

and kashmir freedom struggle, mujahideen in pakistan. really militants from the east, from the west of pakistan, from the east of pakistan, pakistan became a victim. of religious militants. so therefore my deduction, adjustment, pakistan is not a perfect picture of terrorism. until 1979 we were in perfect harmony of the situation. we became a victim of circumstances in the region. then comes 9/11, ladies and gentlemen. after 9/11 there was obviously an attack here. it was most terrible and obvious attack by the united states in afghanistan. my pakistan joining the coalition. now, i was underseeing them. in pakistan's own interest. more than the u.s. interest. pakistan's own interest was that i realized, i knew that pakistan is a moderate country. pakistan wants to be a progressive, enlightened, moderate country. and talibanization and taliban culture, understanding of islam is not for pakistan. therefore, quite clearly we could not -- we would not have liked to be on the taliban -- and therefore we joined the coalition. now, here i want

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because the americans were part of the people who were pushing them back the cia was funding the mujahideen who were operating from pakistan against the russians so how could it be that there's so little historical memory and that in fifteen years later when they start going in they don't realize that's going to be the same on persistence that the russians faced yet it even goes back before the russians as as you talk about you in your book you talk about american exceptionalism in particular exceptionalism when it comes to our our wars we're we're a country that has had total victory in most of our wars you know since the beginning of this war of eight hundred twelve world war one world war two you know the civil war if there was a winner at least the nation was preserved but then there were you know two wars where total victory wasn't cheap and. and those are certainly stains on our history we consider those words where we had to you know have a peace treaty and we had to settle as failures how how does this you know history of warfare in america how is that preventing policy makers today

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both ways and even could backfire big time ask cia who trained their pakistani counterparts and mujahideen during that anti-slavery jihad in afghanistan including al qaeda and their associates it was only after the united states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan then there are students contrary to the general musharraf logic the foreign training is followed by there for an indoctrination it was in pakistan that i qaida militants turned out to be the most rabid anti american interests and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. now for a brief the some other stories making headlines around the world this hour the odds all high that all of that as a massive ordeal or test surrounded by coke breaks through the city's defenses parts of the city ready on the water or on the situation western way three months over and then this rains all to the west letting decades three hundred sixty dollars across the. injury has also caused a billions of dollars worth of damage by submerging homes factories and historic sites. a moroccan man has been sentenced to d

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both ways and even could backfire big time ask cia who trained their pakistani counterparts and mujahideen during the anti-slavery jihad in afghanistan including al qaeda and their associates it was only after the united states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan then there are students contrary to the general musharraf logic of the foreign training he sold by for an indoctrination it was in pakistan that i qaida military it's turned out to be the most read it and americans and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. without a brief look at how that may just stories from around the world the american conference is underway paraguayan a key part in spain and portugal looking to the former colonies to help with that natural crises general secretary and make a place in the summit states and at this time that's in america could be the solution to the economic ten dollars spight stable but i think that america is still playing. by poverty ten of the region's countries are among the world's top fifteen with the highest rate of poverty. the heart of thai

within libya most of the concern outside of libya points to the involvement of a couple of former mujahideen afghan people who work there or fought in afghanistan someone who was a former guantanamo detainee. all of whom died in the rebel side as well as a number of other folks who are here to an islamic political agenda but for the most part these folks have have said that they embrace pluralism that they want to see democracy in libya they have no beef with the united states especially since nato is hoping. the libyans as i said to. waste any concerns about the prospect of islamic extremism stream is. what critics of the nato mission many radical elements you mentioned a couple there are those with al qaeda links will indeed part of the rebel forces now the fact is where all those elements now and do they actually pose a risk for the future. well of course the situation in libya is still in flux there are still are small holdouts of loyalists and of course it's very difficult to know exactly what the state of public opinion is in libya how much the population as a whole supports the revolu

fighting fighting by by you even smell you die months ago already your sorry my supporting the mujahideen by giving notice of a lot of money and hawing about building up the fence that i think that the russians tried to debate and try to compete with and they tried their best it was and that was a done deal long before ronald reagan you know back in the sixty's the cia was predicting the collapse of the soviet this was you know we're ready to go a lot of things that are wrong well they were they were you know i always thought help the left the good ones on the groups and organizations that the they suddenly like the one they were either but i thought it well first of all and so the unit in the fall of brains of illustration so he said we well then you can save it. you know every president before that if you enter into a credit for that i you know that is just in my mind is a complete straw straw man it's there with a very strong here and yeah missing my metaphors but you know why are you calling out wall street instead of main street i don't care i actually don't i've actually called out

union into debt fighting fighting by by you even spend huge amounts of yours are not supporting the mujahideen by giving no it's not a lot of money and help in the building of the fence adding that the russians tried to debate so to compete with and they tracked their value wasn't that was a done deal long before ronald reagan you know back in the sixty's the cia was predicting the collapse of the soviet and this was you know we're ready to go a lot of things that are wrong well they were they were right i always loved help how the big ones on the groups and organizations that the they suddenly like the one they were either five pointed well first of all and so the unit in the fall of brains of inspiration so he was also one or should we be on the other then you could save it. you know every president before that if you enter into a quota for that i you know that is just in my mind is a complete straw straw man it's already very strong here yeah it's in my metaphors but you know why are you calling out wall street instead of main street i don't get it i actually don't i've actually called out

government to arm the afghan mujahideen and take obtained soviet union.s played out in a film, you might remember it. i saw it. "charlie wilson's war." >> as a member of the defense subcommittee, did you think i wasn't aware that the soviet union has invaded afghanistan? >> i think my government was aware. i wondered if they were thinking about doing anything about it other than boycotting the olympics which i think you'll agree was an impotent response to the greatest national security threat. >> two decades later, she's still fighting for peace in afghanistan and thinks she has the answer to defeat the taliban. joining me the author of the new book "diplomacy and diamonds, my wars from the ballroom to the battlefields" joanne herring and i must say in person, julia roberts did a good job looking just like you. >> thank you, gretchen, i think she was wonderful! >> now, you have been active in the fight in afghanistan for so long. back to the early 1980's. what do you make of the situation when you look at it now? >> well, i think there's a lot of hope an