we have fire in the desert now because it brought in a lot of fuel and mullan native grasses, exoticrasses that provide the fuel that wasn't present. now when we have five years in the desert it is devastating for the species because they evolves in the absence of fire. >> what do you want people to take away from your book living with fire? >> well, that fire is neither good nor bad in effect for 100 years we've been treating fire as mostly bad. for 80 of those years we treated it as always bad. smokey bear was carrying the message of the day. and we also want to get across the idea that fire has its place in almost all of landscapes and north america particularly western north america. fire has its place. it occurred they're very frequently. so let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater as it were in throwing out fire or on the other hand introducing fire into all systems where it wasn't present. fire occurred at a specific season and frequency and intensity. we need to pay attention to those things if we are interested in maintaining biological diversity. >> what do you teach

under the current law, the number of mullan elderly residents, those under age 65 for health care insurance coverage will grow from 270 million in 2010 to about 228 million in 2019 according to the estimates, cbo estimates. over the same period them model legal residents without health insurance at any point in time will grow from approximately 50 million people to 54 million people. constituting about 19% of the elderly population because the medicare program coverage nearly all legal residents over the age of 65 our analysis is focused on the effect of the proposal on the on elderly. so they are saying that there will still be during this period some where in the range of 54 million potentially on insured. according to the preliminary analysis, once the proposal was fully implemented a number of people who are on a short but declined to 36 or 37 million representing about 13% of the non-elderly population. so after you get the issues you go from 54 million to 37 million. that's where you get the 16 million pickup you still get uninsured which basically undermines the basic thrust and purp

about the multiplier effect and how they hope that impact the revenues that some of the targeted mullan flexible spending that is supposed. >> well, there is a multiplier effect on all of the stimulus and unfortunately in a lot of the other is going to

july 1st, secretary of the smithsonian institution will be here and finally on july 8, admiral mike mullan, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. second i would like to present the guest with the traditional npc mug. [applause] >> i now have a matching set. this is awesome. thank you. >> for the final question we have someone asking didn't your parents teach you not to play outside in the range? what's with the playing outside during the downpour? >> did i tell you how great the national park is to come to? we have games and stuff going on on the board. it's so great but it doesn't have a roof. we didn't think we would need a roof in washington. it's always a tough thing and as you saw last week in the yankee stadium when they made us sit six hours in a rain delay these things are difficult in every city. we have an ethic and baseball if there's any way to play the game we are going to play the game and that's because of all the workers prepared to be there and all the people who did buy tickets and a plan to travel. those people should do so with expectation if there is any way we are go