evidence, the email from planning, saying "this looks great, a couple of minor things, labeled as and multipliedl and -- label this and multiply this out," these are terms of art that have very significant rights and privileges, as compared to when they are denied, and then there are legal ramifications. so without the notice, and they are not planners, and center, and they get it, and they say, "oh, ok, we just have to do a couple of things." vice president garcia: i understand those arguments. commissioner fung: counselor, what is being sent to you is that even if we acted upon that -- what is being said to you is that even if we acted upon that, and, therefore, it would have qualified for submission, what you are going to hear at planning is this is not and allow use. there is no way they would take this a mission. >> i understand that. mr. sanchez explained that to me. i cannot turn back the clock. commissioner fung: i think you should think about that while we go through the rest of testimony, ok? >> he was very kind to tell us these options, and the option is, again, you have got a good nei