mulvaney: yes. the chair: pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from south carolina will be postponed. it is now in order to consider amendment number 2 printed in house report 113-405. for what purpose does the gentlelady from wisconsin seek reck fission? ms. moore: mr. speaker, i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 2 printed in house report 113-405 in the nature of a substitute offered by ms. moore of wisconsin. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 544, the gentlelady from wisconsin, ms. moore, and a member opposed will each control 15 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentlelady from wisconsin. ms. moore: thank you so much, mr. speaker. i'm so proud to be here today with my distinguished colleagues from the congressional black caucus to present our budget for fiscal year 2015. we spent the last week, two weeks analyzing the house republican budget and you've heard

mulvaney, representing the president's budget. by golly, madam speaker, if you can't find something that you believe in, in that continuum of budgets, you're that looking hard enough and -- can you're not looking hard enough and here's the thing. budgets are about choices. budgets are about priorities. and the budgets of previous congresses and previous presidents have run up a debt the size of which, servicing even at these lower teaser interest rates in american history, will suck out 18 months of productivity over the next 10 years. i do not question my friends' commitment to the snap program. but understand that decision cans of the past -- decisions of the past, paying the interest alone require the snap program be closed completely for 18 months. i do not credit my friends' commitment to national security. but the budgets and the priorities of past congresses have barred us into such a state that paying interest alone would require us to close our military for 18 months over the next 10 years. we could not agree more that th

>> many will vote against it, and let's say that that is because representative mulvaney put this budget together and it is basically -- well, he says that reflects the democratic budget but it is his depiction of old thomas budget. and democrats say that it is not really obama's budget, so they will vote against it and of course they will vote against it because it is the obama budget. >> lastly, we are saying lots of alternatives and what someone is going to happen in the process of the and i? >> little to nothing. the senate budget chairman patty murray is not in the senate budget this year. it is possible that some budget resolutions can be considered in the senate. but there is really not a lot of appetite among republicans in the senate to have a big debate. >> cq budget reporter paul, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> the house is working on its 2015 budget resolution this week. on our next "washington journal", we will talk to committee member marsha blackburn about the gop's 10 year plan. and congressman earl pascrell lays out his party's budget priorities. and the w

representative mulvaney from south carolina put the obama budget together. it's basically, well he says they request the democratic budget but it's his depiction of obama's budget and democrats say it's a gimmick, that it's not really obama's budget so they will vote against it and of course all the republicans will vote against it and say they are voting against it because it is the obama budget. >> host: lastly in terms of what the senate might do in the 2015 budget. we have seen lots of alternatives in the house. what's going to happen is a process in the senate? >> guest: little to nothing. the senate budget chairwoman patty murray is not writing a budget resolution this year. it's possible that some alternative budget resolutions could be considered in the senate that there really is not a lot of appetite even among republicans in the senate to have a big debate on a budget this year. >> host: "cq roll call" budget reporter paul krawzak you can read his reporting as "cq roll call".com. thank you for being with us. >> guest: thank you. now irs officials

mulvaney: thank you, mr. chairman. i think it's north worthy that once again -- it's noteworthy that once again, again, this is the fourth budget cycle i've been through, the fourth democratic budget offered here that never balances, never balances. how do you ever, ever pay back money that you have already borrowed if you never have a surplus and never get to balance? i've said it before, i'll say it again. if you borrow money from me and intend to pay it back, that is debt. if you borrow money from me and never intend to pay it back, that is theft. and that is what the democrats are offering here today, mr. chairman. they're encouraging us to borrow more and borrow more and borrow more and never lay out any plan whatsoever for paying that money back to the children, grandchildren for whom we are borrowing it. the only plan that will be offered here later today that does that is the republican budget. i strongly encourage a no vote on the democrat plan, a no vote on continued generational theft and a yes vote on the r

and nick mulvaney who is a conservative from 2010 as part of the tea party. >> right. >> his quote is's the same old, same old. the same that you hear on fox news. i think that's fine for a conservative republican in south carolina. that the folks are going to make the decision more deeply. >> so is ted cruz capable, do you think, of doing what it would take to reach into the middle of the party? >> i don't see it just because he's so defied now. his big moment on the sun which we talked about on the show, making his stance shutting down government and leading the tea party uprising his moment in the sun is so far to the right he's become a champion to such a small sliver. i think the conservatives when you look at the totality of the field, there are conservatives who people would consider him more electable. you're going to line him up against a scott walker or a john kasay or a paul ryan and say is ted cruz the answer for the republican party. it would require one heck of a metamorphosis. >> other than newt gingrich winning in 2012, south carolina has always been the firewall for r

representative mulvaney from south carolina puts the obama budget together. -- he saysally his it is the democratic budget, but it is his depiction of obama's budget. gimmick, say it is a that it is not really obama's budget. they will vote against it. of course, all republicans will vote against it because it is the obama budget. in terms of what the senate might do, we are seeing lots of alternatives offered in the house. what is going to happen in the senate? >> little to nothing. the senate budget chairwoman is not writing a budget resolution this year. it is possible that some alternative budget resolutions could be considered in the senate. is not a lot of appetite even among republicans in the senate to have a big debate on the budget this year. >> you can read his reporting at "cq roll call." >> secretary of state john kerry was criticized by senate republicans today on capitol number ofa foreign-policy decisions. that hearing is next on c-span. the house began work on a 10 year budget plan. obama signs an executive order on pay equity. >> a proposed comcast time warner merge

mulvaney of south carolina. the chair: recorded vote has been requested. those in fare of a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having done so, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: the yeas are 2 and nays are 413. the amendment is not agreed to. unfinished business is request for recorded vote on amendment number 2, printed in house report 113-405 offered by gentlelady from wisconsin ms. moore and which the noes prevailed by vote. the clerk: amendment number 2 printed in house report number 113-40 in the nature of a substitute offered by ms. moore of wisconsin. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded