mulvaney: yes. i will take to my grave that i thought dick cheney was wrong when he said deficits don't matter. i think you could make the argument that statement was taken out of context, but he has had it hung around his neck for a long time. deficits absolutely matter, especially when you don't have a plan to pay it back. if i take money from you but i believe i am going to give it back to you and you believe i am going to give it back to you, we call that debt. if i take money from you and we don't believe i am going to give it back, there is another name for that, we call that theft. we are stealing from our grandkids. i have made the argument a couple of times in the media that we would be better off printing new dollars every single year for every deficit dollar we run, because that makes you and me pay for our own deficit. if we have to print all this extra money and put it in circulation, that means the money in our pocket is worth less, and then we would feel what we are doing when we borr

mulvaney: a lot of advantages. one of the things we hope to talk about with people on the hill is budget reform. the chairman has some neat ideas about how you do a two-year budget, a rolling two-year budget. you do six spending bills -- there are supposed to be 12 and that process has completely broken down. but you do six and each of those is for two years. the next year, you do another six for another two years. each year you are doing half a budget for a two-year basis. that's a tremendous idea and one we want to explore on the hill. there are a lot better ways to budget than we do and a two-year budget is one of them. host: how do you get there? mr. mulvaney: my experience is congress only fixes things after they are broken. we are not very proactive. i think the folks on the hill are now coming to the full realization that the spending process is broken, when regular conversation about a government shutdown is not out of the ordinary. these massive omnibus spending bills like we are going to do today or tomor

we just heard from mick mulvaney. how about you?o move on completely or will we see this taken up again? >> it is an epic fail for congressional republicans in the house and senate. it is time to pivot to tax reform. they have given a good run on health care and they failed. obamacare will continue to implode. to adjust be a time obamacare again but for now it is time to give it to tax reform. each is crucial. david: was there more that could be done to prevent that failure from happening? more?they have done what could they have done differently? >> they should have gone for the full repeal much earlier in january. that is when they had momentum coming off the election victories. it would've kept the promise they made more than any other promise, that is to repeal obamacare. if there done that in january, the odds of success would have been, i think any good. they failed to do that. it is an epic fail. it raises the stakes for tax reform for republicans. if they fail on tax reform after failing on health care it makes 2018 incredib

listen to mick mulvaney. house member, brought in to the trump white house, a conservative, former freedom caucus member now budget director. his take on the big change. >> i think reince was terribly effective, but probably a little more laid back and independent in the way he ran the office and i think the president wants to go a different direction, wants a little more discipline, structure in there. you know that he enjoys working with generals. we have several of them in the administration doing extraordinary jobs and the president likes that. >> he did like the job general kelly did at the department of homeland security. general kelly came in, said, okay. study the laws. these are the laws this is what i'm going to do. illegal border crossings down. both the justice department and department of homeland security. what can he do in the would us? stop steve bannon from walking in and out? stop jared kushner and ivanka trump from wandering in any way they want? anthony scaramucci hire add week ago caused

coming up, here -- we hear from the omb director, mick mulvaney.is bloomberg. ♪ >> it is 1:00 in washington, 6:00 in london. i'm david gura. welcome to bloomberg markets, the trump economy. here are the top stories. repeal of the affordable care act collapses in the early hours of the morning after three republican senators block the bill. mitch mcconnell says it is "time to move on." uses colorfulucci language to describe reince priebus in interview. my interview with mick mulvaney, the director of the office of management and budget on health care, and tax reform, and the odds of a government shutdown in october. ♪ the end of a busy week on capitol hill. effort to repeal the affordable care act fell apart. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell i dress his colleagues af

is the director of the office of management and budget, former congressman mick mulvany, director mulvaney, always good to have you on. thanks for joining us. ? thanks for having me as always. and i know you want to talk about policy but i do just want to ask about some of the white house personnel issues. when general kelly is sworn in on monday as white house chief of staff will all staff members immediately begin reporting to him? >> i don't know. i answer to the chief of staff, and i will continue to do that. the office of management and budget actually reports directly to the chief of staff. obviously, we answer to the president as everybody does in the west wing. but as far as i know, my reporting doesn't change, nor do i have any reason for it to change. so we'll continue to do our business at omb the same way we did last week. i think we're doing some good work and look forward to continuing that under general kelly's leadership. >> i guess one of the reasons i'm asking is just because some of the people who have worked at the white house or work continuously at the white house say

mick mulvaney next.u just saw a few moments ago, jared kushner saying there is no collusion going on. but is there that will distraction going on because every reporter focusing on what he had to say or not say is one last-minute devoted to things like the budget, things like tax cuts, things like health care rework, all of which concerns my next guest, white house budget or, mick mulvaney. very good to have you. thank you. >> meal, good afternoon. thanks again as always for having me. neil: do you worry whatever your opinion is on us all russia thing that it drags on and on and nothing else get done? >> i don't worry about it too much. i get frustrated along with other folks who are so focused on policy that he gets all the attention that it does, but it doesn't stop us from doing our work. across the street at one b. we are working seven days a week on policy. we don't spend time in russia because that is not what we do. would like folks to start paying attention to what we are doing because disney stu

. >> there's also news coming out this weekend, budget director mulvaney says there will be no othergislative agenda until they address this health care issue. tell us how that dynamic is playing out. are we going to be stone walled with everything else because of health care? >> reporter: could be. they wanted to be on tax reform by end of the summer, and they're not even close it will be interesting to see how it plays out the top republican here, mitch mcconnell, made it clear he wants to move on and the white house has a specific order in which they want to get things done, starting with health care. that's why the president said don't give up. he wants that piece in place frankly the fact that mulvaney, budget director was talking about that, tells you what a big chunk of the financial picture the budget is. >> tracy potts with the latest, thank you. >>> still to come on "worldwide exchange." this morning's top stories and roundup of global markets. >>> snap struggling stock could take another hit today could be a big tt esfor the social media company "worldwide exchange" will b

host: it is helpful that you have a former member with mick mulvaney as the director of omb. let's take a look at some of the things -- the top line things that we are seeing so far from the rfc. your budget pending proposal would have $680 billion for defense and $394 billion for nondefense. it would also "break the firewall to prioritize defense." when we stop there for a moment and ask you about that. what does that mean? guest: over the last years, we have a deterioration for the department of defense in not just budgeting but influence or impact across the board. to give you a specific example, a lot of our brigades are down. when it talks about readiness, that's a term that the defense uses a lot. our readiness is very weak right now. over the 500 brigades that need to fight tonight, only three are equipped. koreat some time in south on some of our bases and they have been pretty depleted. we have to plus up some of that to get back and get traction again and make sure that we are protecting america like we should. host: do you feel like your numbers that you are propos

the discussions -- >> are you in the camp -- just to be clear -- the house freedom caucus, which mulvaney was the founder, do you get the feeling with whatever they come up with, it will be flawed but it will be better than the affordable care act the way it is now? the montra has been get something done, is something is better than nothing. are you in that camp? >> i am in that camp. however, where i think the senate went wrong strategically was not starting with the house bill. they announced some of them that they would rewrite their own. then you have competing plans. i'm of the camp, get something done. but the critical components are, eliminate the penalties, eliminate the taxes, eliminate the mandates that require you to have stuff in your health insurance that you don't want and that is driving up the cost. so i'm in that camp. i happen to believe most of the people are going to make sure those critical items are taken out of whatever proposal they have. >> neil: thanks very, very much. good seeing you again, herman. i want to ask about mitch mcconnell, that they are going to look

director mulvaney, omb director mulvaney had a "wall street journal" op-ed on make america great economicsreet journal" last week that talked about health care reform, tax reform, regulatory rollback, welfare reform. smart trade policies, smart immigration policy, infrastructure spending. all the things that the president wants to do which are aimed at generating 3% economic growth. the more we can do to bring manufacturing back to the united states, the more we can make it desirable to do business here, which is something we've exactly the opposite of for the prior eight years under president obama -- trish: tell me about it. >> if we make it more desirable to make things here, you will see the economy grow. you will see jobs get created. you will see income inequality reduced and really put the lie to everything progressives last eight years that should work and didn't work. we'll see what president trump does work and see that 3% growth. trish: andy, what i like what you're saying here, we need to create a an environment that makes businesses want to be here. you can't say to a business

he had a private meeting with price, mulvaney and pence so they are really putting the hard sell on him. i don't know what they can offer him to make him change his mind because the bill certainly hasn't gotten any better. >> so you think at this point he's a no? >> i do. i've written him a letter and encouraged him to stand his ground. that's a western thing to do. >> you know, that's all they need. if he goes no, that's it. >> that's right. >> so talk about the pressure. >> that's right. but we have heard this morning that there are some other senators who are starting to waver a little bit. they're starting to look at it a little more closely, so you may see the pieces start to fall. >> can i just ask you quickly about whether you're still considering to run for harry reid's position in your state? i know that was something that was on your template. is that still a go? >> well, thank you for asking. yes, i am still considering it. and what dean heller does on the health care vote may make a difference on what i decide to do. >> all right, thank you so much from nevada. >> thank you.

you're not going to be here for rick mulvaney.get secretary he wrote something called mag anomics. make america great economics half the people in the world say population growth and productivity, that the lack of population growth and the toughness in the increase in productivity means we can't grow faster than 2% there's a lot of other people who say for population growth you bring people back in the workforce and for the productivity growth you get corporations to start investing in plant equipment instead of buying back their stock, and finagling with, you know, not making long-term investments and productivity comes back and 3% to 3.5% is possible. >> okay. usa facts.org, you will find the following. if you take a look at what's happened with capital investment, by u.s. businesses, and i'll include r&d because that's an important part of investment no matter what tax policy we've seen, it more or less increases linearly over time it does not spike up it does not spike down i won't draw a conclusion. but the question is can th

have you heard secretary price and director mulvaney say the same thing. anybody who thinks that donald trump and mike pence are going to let one small vote in the senate deter them from making good on the moral imperative to help the millions of americans who were lied to that they can keep their doctor, keep their plan and truly suffering and come to the white house to tell their stories of obamacare victims. then they forget who trump is. he is not going to let one senate vote stop him. he vanquished all types of governors and senators. he beat hillary clinton. he doesn't listen to people say this is left for dead, you're way behind. you will never recover. we never even listen to that language. tanks reform -- he does but tax reform, too. this is very important. we are hopeful by fall we will get something that's fair and simpler. we have to stop spending billions and billions of dollars every year complying with the ridiculous unfair overly complicated tax code. and making our businesses more competitive to employ people. clayton: we are out of time a

watch our interview with mick mulvaney friday had a to car p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span radio, and sees and.org. -- and c-span.org. his book,eumann on healing children. >> the conversations i hear are about cutting medicaid, nih, doing all these things when we are on the cusp of such terrific discoveries. when you think about half of the people on medicaid, half of the beneficiaries, our children. who is going to get hurt? why do we want to do that? we are not doing that to the elderly on medicare. we ought to double down and put more into our children. announcer: watch the entire program at 7:00 p.m. eastern on book tv on c-span2 sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern, david goodhart on his book, the road to somewhere. thee have seen this in contempt in email chains after brexit, left-wing professors saying why did we give these people the vote without some kind of iq test? announcer: for more go to book tv.org. the president announced on twitter a new defense policy on transgendered military personnel. he wrote, after consultation with my general son mil

but mick mulvaney says no, white house policy is we want to stay on healthcare.lse should get to the senate before that gets done. how does it work? >> i love that. i think mick mulvaney is expressing the president's belief that the senate, which failed just miserably last week to deliver. i hold senators collins, mccain accountable for their vote against what the president and what the republican party campaigned on for the last eight years. it's one of the reasons that president trump is in the white house is to repeal and replace obamacare and they couldn't get themselves to do it. they side with the democrats over and over again over their careers. this was an incredible slap to president trump. so with that said i think that the president is going to stay focused on healthcare and i think we'll get this done and i'm excited that mick mulvaney will make them focus on it. now we need to pivot to tax reform once this is over immediately. >> shannon: will you imagine expectations on that? a lot of tax about tax reform versus a tax cut which would be easier and c

. >> bret: this is the office of management and budget, mick mulvaney over the weekend. >> i think whatou are seeing is the president reflecting the mood of the people. the white house can't move on. in the people's view, they should move on in the senate. they should find a way to solve the problem. >> bret: talking about health care, don't do anything else until you get health care fixed. >> i think we have about reached the limits of what we can do with one party. i think were going to have to involve the other party. we tried. i voted for it. i would've liked to have kept health care alive. in arizona, 200,000 people will wake up without health insurance. they will have paid the fine but they can't afford the insurance. a bigger number are paying the premiums but can't afford to use it. we desperately need the reforms but i think we have reached the limits of what we can do as one party. >> bret: you said you voted for the skinny bill, but the senior senator did not. your feelings about john mccain's vote. >> his vote was consistent with the position he's taken for a long time. we n

. >> watch an interview with mick mulvaney tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c spand raide nd c-span.org. c-span's "washington journal" live every day with news that affects you. tomorrow, elaine donnelly will talk about the future of transgender military members in the wake of president trump's tweet calling on a ban of their service. then bill piper, of the policy alliance, that works to decriminalize drugs, will talk about plans by the trump squad mrgs to crack down on the growing, selling and use of marijuana. and amy wax will talk about her piece looking at the education of disadvantaged youth in the united states. watch "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern on saturday morning. join the discussion. >> earlier this afternoon president trump announced he was replacing his chief of staff, reince priebus. tweeted -- t as he arrived in the d.c. area, the president spoke briefly to reporters about the change in the white house. here is a look. >> mr. president, why secretary kelly? president trump: reince is a good man. kellha

mulvaney of why he th he can get 3% growth. >> i like the word maganomics.hat sticks. >> it has a better ring than trumponomics >> so my pick actually is somewhat related talking about u.s./china relations, titled trump gives beijing a lesson in the art of the deal. he writes mr. trump has made clear that he means what we says about deal making. china said it would help and it did not. that is enough for mr. trump to put the two most powerful countries on a potential collision course he must be bluffing or earnest, but either way it has a potential to reshape the world's most important relationship. i think in a way do not underestimate the impact that trump's tweets and the recent sanctions, the impact that has on this very important relationship between trump and zixi jinping and 100 day plan marks 100 days since the two met in mar-a-lago. we're supposed to see something 00 trade they can't see eye to eye on north korea, can they see eye to eye on topics like trade we'll get a sense of that next week >>> and still to come here, yellen day two can we expect

to hear mulvaney and even kellyanne say that the president wants structure, and wants discipline.hat what the president is hoping to see in a john kelly as a chief of staff? someone who knows john kelly, but does that sound like the wishes of the president? discipline and structure? >> look, i have no idea what donald trump wants. right? i'm not good at interpreting, reading the leaves with him. and i would say, be careful what you wish for because you just may get it. what i do know with john kelly he gets a leader into discipline, structure and chain of command. he's a serious guy with gravitas. he has led on the combat field. a man who led troops. i knew him in miami. got to know him and his wife, who are very active in the gold star family movement. in miami, when he was commander of southcom. he was very respected in latin america, which is the jurisdiction of southcom by his colleagues and did a lot of very good bilateral work in latin america with governments on things like drug interdictions and gang violence and all the projects we have in common. now, the question is, th

. >> watch our interview with mick mulvaney, director of the office of management and budget radio and c-span c-span.org. >> sunday on "q&a," mark bowden talks about his book "way: 1968, one of the longest and bloodiest battles of the vietnam war." >> the battle of hue because the tie gone military command was so out of reality what was happening on the streets. they really got a lot of young americans killed because what general westmoreland denied that the city had been taken. it was a fact that he continued to deny it for nearly the whole time the battle was fought. a consequence would never concede the sheer number of enemy forces that were in the city. so small units of marines and troopers were being ordered to attack positions that were held by overwhelmingly superior enemy forces in entrenched position. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." >> former white house ethics director walter shaub outlined ways to strengthen executive ethics rules. he criticized the trump administration for not adhering to ethical norms that previous administrations have observed and what

. >> mick mulvaney said the white house does not want any boats -- votes in the senate. you guys are also pushing for the confirmation -- will the white house except senate voting on non-health-care things? press secretary sanders: we are looking for the repeal in relation of obamacare. we have not been shy about that. -- repeal and replacement of .bamacare we have not been shy about that. press secretary sanders: we will make sure to keep you guys posted on the president's travel in august. it is something the administration is very focused on, has been. we'll continue working with the house and senate and members of the administration. thanks so much, guys. >> blood with the president joke about police brutality? a large topic at the press conference today. anthony scaramucci leaving his role as white house communications director, a position he held for just 10 days. after johncoming kelly was sworn in as white house chief of staff. the wall street journal expects of after that anthony scaramucci will hold his position at the u.s. import-export bank. thisdent trump tw

. >> see our interview with mick mulvaney friday on c-span, c-span radio and c-span.org. >> coming up, police officers who responded to the shooting at a congressional baseball game practice honored at the white house beard testimony about a pentagon program that gave military quitman to a fake organization, and later a hearing on russian corruption. >> coming up live friday on c-span3. in the morning, former white house ethics erector discusses the six months he worked in the trump administration and his decision to resign. live from the national press club at 10:00 a.m., and then a discussion on iranian public opinion. also, the nuclear agreement and the trump administration. later, a conversation about the importance of the u.s.-japan military alliance hosted by the center for strategic and international studies live at 2:30 p.m. eastern. you can follow all of these on c-span3, c-span.org and the c-span radio app. >> c-span's "washington journal," live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. focus on theg, we debate in the senate on efforts to repeal and replace the

mulvaney indicating that they want to get the healthcare thing straightened out. that surprised me. others saying they're on board with continuing with tax cuts and can work on them concur rentedly. i don't know what is the case. is it your sense that going back to the healthcare fix well is a bad move? >> i would go straight arrow towards tax reform and lower taxes. i don't know why they brought up healthcare again. it's a huge mistake. but hey, they have been back and forth, up and down and all around for six months. you know, the heads are spinning at this point in time. it's amazing markets are doing what they're doing. i think what you still have, neil, central banks around the globe with negative rates and printing money and a weaker dollar here that is helping out multinationals. then you have a little momentum. new highs beget new highs. boeing didn't hurt either. >> neil: and i want to talk about this. bill clinton had a rocky first six months with gays in the military and the healthcare effort that was fits. ronald reagan had a problematic first two years. looked like neit

apparently, onb director mick mulvaney used visual aids to explain something he's calling magnomics and during an interview earlier in the morning. >> it's our version of reaganomics. you look what he did in the 80s and they came up with a list of four five things we wanted to do. we look at the challenges we face and we talk about regulatory reform. we talk about tax reform, healthcare reform, energy dominance. those things tie together. it's make america great again economics. it's what is driving everything we do. >> i'll point out mick mulvaney as a standing invitation to come and talk. we love to dig into it with him. >> so, as we go to break, we'll have a look at the markets right now. let's take a quick look at how markets are doing. having a rough day, onehing you want to be loong for the nasdaq has had ten straight record closes. >> indeed it has. i can't stop thinking in magnomics, 3% economic growth. that's a goal. only invisalign® clear aligners are made with smarttrack® material to precisely move your teeth to your best smile. see how invisalign® treatment can shape your sm

amy: that is mick mulvaney. never trump said he would cut medicare, medicaid, social security. david cay johnston quickly, can you summarize the house budget that was passed yesterday? >> oh, yes. orgs is what dcreport. reported yesterday. it increases immigration, military, refers to those as appropriate uses of precious tax air resources. not designedget is to get people into position where they don't need government help at all, but it is clearly going in the direction of turning america into a police state. that she get a lot of concerns, especially the memo we reported is not made a single major news organization, amy. amy: overall, if you can speak about what this budget means. isoh, what this budget means less for those people who are needy, for people who are poorlyd, who are educated and don't have good jobs, who lost their jobs because of trade -- one of donald big issues -- and instead, lashes more benefits and continues spending that benefits the wealthiest among us. this goes to the republican theme that i describe as the biggest economic problem we have according

last budgeti will committee meeting with mick mulvaney, i highlighted this area. donald trump talked about a $1 trillion infrastructure plan. people want to see compromise? a $1willing to support trillion infrastructure plan. we need more than that, if you look at all the reports from international engineers. they generally rate us around a d to a d- when it comes to infrastructure. that is talking about roads, bridges, intercity transit. talking about our water systems and electrical grid. i say trump was right and this as someone who opposes a lot of what he stands for. when he talked about our need to invest in infrastructure, he was right and i'm willing to support him on that. where is that in this budget? there is no infrastructure plan. this was something that had bipartisan support and could be a win for the administration and both parties and for the american people. a lot of americans -- put a lot of americans back to work, and yet there is no infrastructure spending at all. host: some of the numbers from the budget. $511 million in nondefense spending.

mulvaney said the white house was on any votes in the senate until their voting on healthcare with john mccain out, it's unlikely for vote on healthcare. and trump is pushing for nominees, will they accept the senate voting on non- healthcare things over the next few weeks and months? >> were continuing to push forward hopefully with the repeal of replacement of obama care. we'll continue to do that. >> the president's legislative director was talking about tax reform. i wanted to ask if you could elaborate on the president hope to travel in august to talk about tax cuts and tax reforms and interest and maybe getting democratic senators. had you have any details? >> that at this time, but certainly will make sure to keep you posted on the president's travel throughout august. he does hope to have a large amount of support for tax reform. that's something that's vital for our economy and something the administration is very focused on and has been and will continue working with both the house and senate members of the administration. i'm close on time. thank you. >> why would the preside

mike rounds joins us once again an omb director mick mulvaney as here as a law through the next couple weeks with the budget, health care bill and tax reform. we would get into all of that in the next couple hours. john mccain has been diagnosed with brain cancer. the disease was discovered following a procedure to remove a blood clot from his tightly last week. a new sending shockwaves throughout the political world with his senate colleagues rallying around him. >> you some one of incredible credibility as well as great courage and great character. if anybody can beat this, john mccain is the man. >> .knows how this ends, not me. but i do know this. this disease has never had a more worthy opponent. >> he wants to get back. always thinking about the senate and working on getting things done. he is a real warrior. maria: president trump issued a statement saying john mccain has always been a fire pit melania and i send our thoughts and prayers to senator mccain, cindy and the entire family. get well soon, john. medicine dr. jeanette nish. good to see you. thanks for joining us. tell u

. >> omb director mulvaney has called for changes to the budget cbo'ss and changes to the to be tied to a lift with the debt ceiling. you see any need for changes to the process? open andd certainly be have told the chairman of the budget committee that. until the former chairman that when he was chairman. process is not functioning not because the actual methodology is functioning because of a lack of political competency basically. what you need is essentially political courage to put these things together. i don't think the process is what's holding us back. >> do you think senator mccain possible last night in the sentiment could potentially herald the new era of bipartisanship? >> that would be wonderful. .t sure could i think it is unlikely, i think we are still in a very sadly situation on the hill and in the country. , i thinkhe reason is of it of the flaws in republican thinking and our approach to health care is they are really two corehandicapped by philosophical beliefs. one is that the free market is always better and the federal government can't do anything right. as lo

but you can keep that growth on spending and grow your way. >> watch our interview with milk mulvaney tonight at 8:00 eastern and span, c-span radio c-span.org. c-span "washington journal" with news and policy issues. coming up saturday morning, founder and president of the center for military readiness will talk about the future of transgender military members. then bill piper of the drug policy alliance, a group that works to decriminalize drugs and discuss plans by the trump administration on the growing, marijuana. use of and amy will talk about looking at the education of disadvantaged youth in the united states. watch "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern. join the discussion. >> sunday on american history tv on c-span 3, two u.s. presidents. at 6:00 p.m. eastern, life and life that chronicle the of john kennedy. >> they never pushed photographers or writers away. they didn't care how they were photographed, or whether the tie was fixed or the coat was on. they knew if they made themselves accessible to the media, they would be published and of course, it was a ground swell.

. >> watch our interview with mick mulvaney on on friday at 8:00 p.m. >> on monday president trump spoke to thousands of boy scouts at the national scout jam bborj. president trump talked to the children about the election and health care debate. >> thank you, everybody, thank you very much. i am thrilled to be here. thrilled. and if you think that was an easy trip, you're wrong. but i am thrilled. 19th boy scout jamboree, wow, and to address such a tremendous group, boy, you have a lot of people here, the press will say it's about 200 people. it looks like about 45,000 people. you set a record today. you set a record. that's a great honor, believe me. tonight, we put aside all of the policy fights in washington, d.c. you've been hearing about with the fake news and all of that. we're going to put that -- we're going to put that aside. and instead, we're going to talk about success, about how all of you amazing young scouts can achieve your dreams, what i've been thinking about. you want to achieve your dreams, i said who the hell wants to speak about politics when i'm in front of the bo

i want you to react to mulvaney. he wasn't talking about you.and a group of people he didn't seem to like. react to this. where does this stand? >> look, the cbo has been wrong. they're challenged with a very, very difficult burden; right? they're supposed to sort of anticipate what a 20-trillion-dollar national economy is going to do. they're supposed to challenge with the methodology and how they're supposed to measure a particular piece of legislation. extraordinarily difficult. does not undo the fact, however, they're still using jonathan's methodology to look at health care bills. the cbo is often touted by folks who oppose the bill, this nonpartisan entity, and they're certainly nonpartisan but the methodologies certainly have their weaknesses. neil: all right. i didn't understand what he said there. but i think what he said, doug, is that your methodology and you were the problem. what do you make of that? >> i think two things. number one, i think it's fair for anyone to question cbo's findings, their methods. that's part of taking the r

. >> on the debt ceiling omb , director mulvaney has called for changes to the budget process and changes to the cbo's to be tied to a lift with the debt ceiling. you see any need for changes to the process? or for changes to the cbo? rep. yarmouth: i would certainly be open and have told the chair and black of the budget committee that. i told former chairman tom price that when he was chairman. i think the process is not functioning, not because the actual methodology is functioning because of a lack of , political competency basically. what you need is essentially political courage to put these things together. i don't think the process is what's holding us back. >> do you think senator mccain 's vote last night and the sentiment could potentially herald the new era of bipartisanship? rep. yarmouth: that would be wonderful. it sure could. i think it is unlikely. i think we are still in a very , very sadly polarized situation on the hill and in the country. part of the reason is -- i think one of the flaws in republican thinking on our approach to health care, and i think as is true in

majority leader mitch mcconnell has said its time, "to move on"" white house budget director mick mulvaney followed up on president trump's tweet yesterday, telling the senate not to vote on any other legislation without a health care repeal, and even suggested senators cancel their august recess. >> is this official white house >> well, i think yes. in the white house's view they can't move on in the senate. >> sreenivasan: white house counselor kellyanne conway said president trump will decide this week whether to end about $7- billion dollars a year in subsidies to insurance companies that help lower costs of healthcare for lower- income americans. president trump suggested in a tweet yesterday that the "bailouts" would end if congress doesn't pass a new healthcare bill. house minority leader nancy pelosi said democrats could work with republicans on at least one proposal. >> i think there is a proposal in one of mcconnell's bills that he had the repeal and replace, he had a provision that we can all embrace and it was a provision to cover the cost sharing reductions extend the reinsura

ainsley: all right, mic mick mulvaney.gers in your ears like that so i don't feel bad? steve: what did you say again? brian: we can't leave without saying happy birthday to you. steve: tomorrow. brian: is it today or tomorrow? >> it's tomorrow. ainsley: happy birthday. that's a big one. how are you going to celebrate? >> going home to spend time with my much younger wife and 17-year-old daughter. ainsley: i guess you are during this because the ifb is not staying in your ear? >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear any of that. brian: mic, thanks so much. ainsley: happy birthday. we are glad you were born. steve: later today, john roberts is going to go to the white house and go who has been using my ear piece? it's a little out of shape. brian: they are from the same location. steve: nine minutes after the top of the hour. jillian joins us with a fox news alert from vegas. jillian: a lot of news happening today. we will be keeping a close eye on this one. start with a fox news alert. we are just hours away from o.j. simpson' parole

general keith kellogg, the chief of staff to the national security council, and also mick mulvaney, but listen to this one. kellyanne conway is under consideration for a chief of staff. >> reporter: jon karl leading us off. jon, thanks to you. >>> and also breaking this evening. a new vote. so far, the effort to repeal and replace obamacare has not passed. also, the effort to simply repeal it went down in defeat. tonight, the republicans are moving forward with a skinny repeal. taking away a few parts of obamacare. just in tonight, one leading republican furious saying skinny bill as policy is a disaster. abc's mary bruce back on the hill tonight. >> reporter: tonight, the senate is barreling towards a vote. >> i think we need to get something done, get it started. >> it's gonna be a narrower bill than i would have supported, but it's a good first start. >> reporter: first, they tried to repeal and replace, but that plan failed. >> the motion is not agreed to. >> reporter: then just repeal, work out the replacement later. that didn't have the votes either. >> the amendment is not agreed

i know that director mulvaney has a different view from the secretary, so he may be pushing that view from the administration's view. so it may not be the secretary's idea to collapse state into usaid. i don't want to be responsible for giving perimeters to things i have a fundamental problem with. the last point is, you know, the question of it will be far more difficult in my view, having sat where you have sat and having an administration of my party and standing up to it when i personally believed they were wrong on a policy basis, to challenge in next year's authorization, assuming you do this year's authorization, something that the administration will have done. so they structure the new department as they wish. they pursue their reorganization without any meaningful effort legislatively to construct what that should look like, and now once having done that members not only on this committee but on the senate as a whole will be put into a position, if they believe that reorganization or elements thereof were not appropriate, of challenging the administration to do that in a new

his budget director mick mulvaney though it had previously said he would support cuts to social security but of course this would have to get through the house with other moderate republicans that might not want to touch it and then of course democrats even they could come. their vacation in the past maybe sorry i'm being negative everyone has everything to haitian thank you so much being busted out of shame for the. well we are seeing continued growth in employment after nearly a decade of economic left her g. american workers deserve it this development to shed light on a new problem the u.s. economy faces a skills gap so it's time to bring in michael bell and president and c.e.o. of builders and contractors thank you so much for joining me today thank you very important topic you say you know we're seeing strong employment growth. but there's a new problem especially in in recent decades the u.s. has a skills gap we're not training up labor we're not getting them out there and when when you aren't getting them out there you're not giving employees the power to work with the business o

. >> watch our interview with mick mulvaney, director of the office of management and budget, tonightt 8:00 eastern on c-span, c-span radio, and cspan.org. >> earlier this morning, around 1:30 a.m. eastern time, senate republicans failed in their effort to repeal and replace the current health care law. three republicans opposed the measure. susan collins of maine, lisa murkowski of alaska, and john mccain of arizona. two independents also joined the 46 democrats in the senate in voting against the measure. here's some of the debate on the bill before the vote starting with remarks from majority leader mitch mcconnell. this is half an hour. mr. mcconnell: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. mcconnell: the legislation i just laid down is called the health care freedom act, and it restores freedom to americans that obamacare took away. it does so in a number of ways. first, the health care freedom act repeals the core pillars of obamacare. it eliminates the so-called individual mandate that forces many americans to buy obamacare insurance they don't want, can'

test >> joining me now, mick mulvaney. office of management director. great to have you with us. >> it's a lovely day in washington d.c. i hope it's nice in new york. >> it's not raining in the background. >> i hope they splash me in the interview and help me stop. stuart: and janet yellen says we're not getting to 3% growth anytime in the last three years. how do you respond, sir? >> that she can be wrong and if you get a chance to do what we laid out in the op-ed, introducing make america great economics, if we get a chance to put those policies in place, those comprehensive package of proposals that the white house is coming up with. we have a chance to get back to 3% growth. >> it's all about cutting taxes and cutting red tape and just getting on with it, that's what it's all about. it's tax cuts, tax reforms, reducing regulations and energy policy that unleashes the natural resources. it's welfare reform that has people getting back into the work force and trade policies. we want today come up with something that encapsulated everything that presid

coverage and their estimate are people who have not gained coverage yet and so it's kind of like mick mulvaney the budget director will say in washington they call this a budget cut when we mean that the budget will grow more slowly well at the same. thing with the coverage numbers were basically saying that the number of people with insurance will grow more slowly under the republican plan right there's a definite need to clarify that sometimes for people so i want to know what your personal opinion of the community rating. i know everybody only is different every but every every family separate your health is different when they're having children things like that but doesn't it seem unfairly discriminatory if you've got parkinson's disease you need coverage and what they're going to charge you there's no way you could even work that much to afford that obviously this would fall under the. umbrella maybe of medicaid or some other government programs how do you feel about that though right yeah and i'm so glad you asked that question because community rating is one way that we can deal with d