old indiana soybean farmer vernon hugh bowman the outcome of which could change the influence of mum santo on crops and life patents. but the enormous influence one fan to hold over our government today does boman have a chance to talk about the lawsuit and more and i'm joined now by bill freeze science policy analyst at the center for food safety bill thank you so much for coming on us have to be here so you were sitting in the supreme court hearing the case today talk about both sides kind of give us a little breakdown and for our audience well i think you bowman is a microcosm of the really deep in systemic injustice in american agriculture that is really greatly harmed american farmers and this has to do with the fact that since the one nine hundred eighty s. biotechnology companies have been allowed to patent seeds and they've also bought up much of the seed supply so with patents they are allowed to criminalize seed saving which has had you know really bad consequences for hugh and other farmers like him and by buying up all these seed firms farmers have ever fewer choices of non pat