mumu us are also like that in moscow, uh, but uh, anyway, it's always some is a person rather personifyingf places, it can be some kind of landscape circumstances. well, maybe an allegory of some landscaped circumstances of places. it can be the designer of the place, the architect, the founder, the creator, and some combinatorial values. well, as soon as you started talking about odessa, firstly, the genius place of the entire northern black sea region of all new russia is, of course, for the russian tradition, catherine is great and the genius of the place of everything, and the black sea region is the whole of new russia is its creator. e, grigory alexandrovich potemkin, his serene highness prince. eh, and here. uh, let's say e in the monument to the founder of odessa, as he is fully called ekaterina occupies the upper, that is, these register, and the top of the pedestal, and four are standing around the pedestal. well, there could be more of them. this is a well-known imperial tradition, the war of the monument to catherine in st. petersburg can be imagined there around the pedestal.