. >> for the last 20 muncie has been running and his record. lou: i'm not talking about that. talking about right now. governor romney put him on his record, and that was his signature achievement. >> i promise you, what they will do, they're going to fire ever nuclear bomb they have. lou: had dirty. is that what you're saying? >> at the end of the day, the fact that the man stood on that stage and look presidential, performed at a high level, kept telling people is the economy. at a solution to fix it. what did they could agree with all the details are not is irrelevant. he came off as presidential. that is the test. 55 million people the watch that are open-minded, a basically benefited immensely 56 were talking about over 60 million people watching that debate. your tuchman 67 percent thought he won according to the cnn poll which is not exactly a ride -- >> that is the consensus. a lot of it was driven by the kind of twitter celebrity. and leftwingers for the most part who were saying they wanted obama to go at bain, the 47% issue, get dirty. as their advice to him. i will

muncie realized he had run out of a tax and things to say that were not true, he wants to change the subject. he turned to the moderator and said maybe we should move on to something else pyrrhic he was clearly uncomfortable discussing the debt and the economy. greg will we see a jump in the polls for mr. romney now? >> we will sit what happens. millionsf americans tonight are hurting, who don't have jobs, who are looking for jobs, who graduated from college and cannot find a job in the field a study for. millions of americans like that were watching the program. what they saw was a candidate with real ideas about how to get the economy growing and jobs being created, and a president who has absolutely no clue how to do that. i think we'll move on and continue to take our message to voters. there will be to more debate than there is a vice presidential debate. i think tonight was a dramatic moment in this campaign which is very clear that the president of the united states, barack obama come did not want to discuss taxes or the economy or the budget because his record is very, very b

john is out in muncie, indiana. >> caller: good morning if you want a perfect example of what they'ves, what happened with richard lugar getting defeated by richard murdoch. he ran six years ago unopposed now he's out of office. we've got richard murdoch in there who has come up, he lost a half billion dollars of tax money. he's come out against wants to repeal the direct election of senators regardless of whatever joe donnelly's brought up, they're just doing themselves do, you know, they're going to lose a safe seat this year. >> bill: now, john is, i mean, lugar is a perfect example of somebody, like an arlen specter right, somebody who represented the best of the republican party and again, not a democratic by any means right. >> caller: no, no, no. >> bill: they were real republicans, but at the same time, they put their country and american people ahead of their party, and that's what we don't see today with the tea partyers, john. appreciate it, by the way you've got a great candidate in joe donnelly. he's going to make a great united states senator. here's what the american pe

. >> host: let's go to muncie indiana. james at our republican line. hello? >> caller: hello? traffic yes, i'm for mitt romney. the reason that i for mitt romney is because i think our country has never seen such an awful time. and, we were promised hope and change in the last four years, and we really, really need hope and change now. >> host: what did you hear from mitt romney here, talking about some of his economic plans? what did you in particular that made you more hopeful our for the convention to vote for him? >> caller: well, he's just coming in, he's got a plan and he is a man that knows how to carry out a plan. and we just need somebody in there that knows about the economy and how to fix it and a man that has fixed economies before. that's the type of man that we need in there now. >> host: mitt romney has been speaking this afternoon in ames, iowa. later today he is in north can't ohio and he will team up with his vice presidential running mate paul ryan. vernon is next click on our independent line from nottingham in maryland. >> caller: hello? >> host: either. t