of muncie, indiana? >> yes, sir. yes, sir, i can. >> in spite of all that testimony?ife? >> i am not impressed with that testimony. if you don't have oren johnson, what proof do you have that tony french killed anybody? >> but to those close to teresa, there was never any doubt tony was behind the murder. it took patience, hard work and a lot of courage, especially from mary dabbs, a woman who herself had been in an abusive marriage and risked her life for a woman she never met. to this day, she can't go past the french home without being overwhelmed. teresa's friends and sister say they're just thankful the truth finally came out. what do you say to teresa french's family? >> i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry. >> sorry for what? >> i wish that i had been strong enough to go sooner. i wish that i overcame my fear sooner. i just wasn't strong enough. >> our prayers have been answered. a million perils have been lifted from my chest, and my mother finally knew what happened to her baby. such a peaceful feeling. >> in the end, for teresa's family and friends, justice may have b

the you muncie's the opportunity to make a difference. >> i am with the fiscal times. to talk about the need for the war on isis but there is little discussion about cost to the government or the taxpayers. what is your take of the likely impact of a long-term battle and what does that do to the democrats' agenda? >> we have to look at that honestly unlike iraq for the administration projected less than $100 billion it is now over $1 trillion and the general sinn secchi pointed out we need to have careful hearings and realistic assessment to do what the president and the american people think needs to be done that is prohibiting teen it -- isil natalie terrorizing its own region but a national security threat when needed on this assessment, and we have not done that at this point in time that i hope that we would. not with rose, other glasses by realistically. growing the economy to feed terrorism are not mutually exclusive. america can do both witty to be strong and create jobs. to feel confident america is the country they want to be. we ought to do both and also of