i mean, you had reggie, thurmond munson, the owner, you had billy martin who would be hired and fired the story, and it was in new york, and i was based in new york, and so yeah. i got to know them very, very well, and that's where i learned about how to cover baseball. >> jonathan: and obviously being a beat reporter, the players talk to the reporters in the locker room. i mean, this is, like, a basic thing in the, in the clubhouse after the game. so you got access. you got access to the yankees locker room. >> well, you know, it took me two years. >> jonathan: but you got it. >> and i got it because i never went public with any of my, quote, unquote, demands or any of my frustrations. i went very much behind the scenes with the young pr person, first-year person, my age, and that made all the difference. it wasn't one of the older -- i would call them, curmudgeonly men who had said to other women reporters, you know, you better behave yourself, and if you don't behave yourself, you know, you're out. they're just so frightened if they let one woman in that door n t in that door, in t