i look forward to working with ambassador munter and grossman. frankly, the reason most of the problem is in pakistan and not in afghanistan is because we are in afghanistan. as we go through a responsible transition, it has to be conditions based to insure that as we draw down our forces, i am aware of the movement both here on the hill and publicly, there has to be a transition period at the end of the day, we have to be sure that the safe haven doesn't relocate from pakistan to afghanistan. >> i understand that. does it take 150,000 troops to guarantee that doesn't happen? -- ihat is a question that's am not part of those deliberations. >> that is an unfair question. it is a question on the table. i understand you're not part of those deliberations. let me ask you this. in your testimony, you say enormous challenges remain. governess, corruption, economic growth, credibility, narcotics, sustainable development, adequate employment opportunities, increase revenues and the capacity for the government to provide basic services, education and heal