founder and ceo of murray energy. managing director, facebook investor and mentor here in the studio. a lot to talk about with roger including those violations and take knowledge he. the top story preparing about the trade fight. not backing down from its hardline stance on trade as he prepares to meet with leaders of the industrialized nations tomorrow. it will be the first chance world leaders have to confront the president in person since the u.s.-led tariffs on steel and aluminum import from canada, mexico and the european union must be. president trump stockpicking on kaiser larry kudlow sought to down load the tensions. >> we are talking everything through. there may be disagreement. i regard this as much like a family quarrel. president trump is very clear with respect to his trade reform efforts that we will do what is necessary to protect the united states from the businesses in workforce. trouble fix this broken system. trinity what do you think? what do you make of that? >> this is different from the core w

markets and so what you're seeing now is some politically connected companies like first energy like murray energy and some nucular companies like exxon are using their connections in the trump administration to turn back what we're seeing in the marketplace and force massive government intervention you know i don't know it's crazy but i can imagine a critic saying well wait a minute barr you like when some subsidies might support renewable sorts of fuels like like ethanol which are essentially subsidies to corn producers corn farmers so what's the deal the president decides he likes coal what's the difference what i think the differences look i'm sensitive to displaced workers all the folks that work in coal country that are losing their jobs because coal has been displaced and out competed by natural gas and renewables but bailing out an economic power plants is not the way to save those jobs instead reinvesting in those communities to have them be the centers of you know solar photovoltaic manufacturing or wind turban manufacturing that's going to be the solution here we have to understand that

markets and so what you're seeing now is some politically connected companies like first energy like murray energy and some nucular companies like exxon are using their connections to the trumpet ministration to turn back what we're seeing in the marketplace and force massive government intervention you know i don't know it's crazy but i can imagine a critic saying well wait a minute barr you like when some subsidies might support renewable sorts of fuels like like ethanol except which are essentially subsidies to corn producers corn farmers so what's the deal the president decides he likes coal what's the difference what i think the differences look i'm sensitive to displaced workers all the folks that work in coal country that are losing their jobs because coal has been displaced and out competed by natural gas and renewables but bailing out an economic power plants is not the way to save those jobs instead reinvesting in those communities to have them be the centers of you know solar photovoltaic manufacturing or wind turban manufacturing that's going to be the solution here we have to understa

markets and so what you're seeing now is some politically connected companies like first energy like murray energy and some nucular companies like exxon are using their connections in the trumpet ministration to turn back what we're seeing in the marketplace and force massive government intervention you know i don't know it's crazy but i can imagine a critic saying well wait a minute barr you like when some subsidies might support renewable sorts of fuels like like ethanol or which are essentially subsidies to corn producers corn farmers so what's the deal the president decides he likes coal what's the difference.

, who worked for nearly a decade on behalf of fossil fuel companies including the coal company murray energyapproved by the senate in april, becomes second-in-command and would becocome thehe epa administratot least for a time. is that right? >> that is exactly right. we think scott pruitt should be impeached. it is a bit of a power game in d.c. to see if he can hold on. the white house wasn't ago, but not -- once and ago, but not the president. republican members of congress are saying, this is an embarrassment and we have to get rid of this guy. within congress should force them out through impeachment. but we have to be honest and recognize what that means. we're going to probably have pruitt exit the e scene and a al industry lobbyist be in charge of the epa. amy: pruitt rolling back obama era fuel standards. briefly, if you could explain what that is. >> the most important thing that president obama did to deal with climate change was not the clean power plant, but increasing the phyllis and -- fuel efficiency standards for cars and trucks. it was being done in two phases. win.s a win/

finally i want to thank the ways and means republican staffers led by emily murray, the energy and commerce democratic staff led by tiffany, and the energy and commerce republican staff and my own democratic staff at the ways and means, which is always superb, led by amy. melanie and rachel. a lot of hard work goes into this sort of legislation. a lot including of complexities have e addressed during the process. oftentimes that is not the sort of information that finds its way to the public light. but acknowledging here those people who helped to put this together as well as the men and women of the committee, i think frequently is missed and we -- and we want to do that so that they receive the due praise that they are entitlemented to. hope that this will quickly become law. one of the things that unites every one of us in this chamber is that we all know somebody, a family member, somebody who lives down the street, or a co-worker who has an opiate addiction. i think that congress taking this step today in this direction will provide some sense of hope for those family and friends who f

energy. >>> time now for "the lid." panel is mark, mark murray, susan page, alphonso aguilar.ying to have a show themed on republicans having anxiety but it sort of turned into one last shot before this election. it just seems politically impossible. this seems like it's more of a political thing. >> it is impossible. i don't know if it's a real -- we're talk about 23 to 25 republicans. they're moderates in this district with a lot of hispanic voters. i'm not against a discharge petition but i don't know what the end game is. >> it's okay but then what. >> if it's only political posturing you want it to end to make sure it helps republicans. they will pass a vote with only 20, 25 republican votes or all democrats. who's going to gain? democrats. they're going to say we care about immigration, republicans don't. the senate is not going to do anything on immigration. the white house is not going to support this bill. i think the speaker is trying to do is salvage this process. see if we can get an agreement and get a republican bill that can get to 218 votes. can that happen? i'

no mystery around the radical proposal the department of energy memo before the national security. it was found out that murray cole sent a letter to the trump administration to bail out coal mines and eliminate worker safety and allow more population. he called for an emergency order to keep plants on site open for two years. that is what d.o.e. is proposing. i know the president wants to deliver on this. the grid operators say the emergency does not exist. the pgam said there's quote no need for such a drastic actio e. it doesn't matter this plan would cost consumers billions. multiple estimates found that it would cost consumers $10 billion a year. as i said just in reasonable and what you do to hold down energy costs to consumers. that's your job. as developments move forward on power, it'sust in reasonable rates unless somebody wants to go back to where we're doing more to make sure we're protecting consumers. assistant secretary admitted at a house hearing that d.o.e. has conducted zero analysis of this emergency order which could cost consumers and tax payers. one article i'll submit for the record call

there is no mystery behind the radical proposal the department of energy memo before the national security council. it was found out that murray sent a letter to the trump administration prewritten executive order to bail out coal mines and allow more pollution. he called for an emergency d.o.e. order to keep the plants with fuel on-site open for two years, that is exactly what d.o.e. is proposing. well, i know that the president wants to deliver on this but the grid operator safety emergency does not exist. the pga and said there is quote no need for such a drastic action. it doesn't matter that this plan would cost consumers billions. multiple independent estimates them d.o.e.'s narrow or proposal would cost consumers $10 billion a year. as i said just and reasonable in such an important aspect of what you do and holding down energy costs to consumers. that's your job. that is your day job at the federal level. that is why we have a ferc so that as developments move forward on power, that it's just and reasonable rates. unless someone wants to go back to another day an era where we doing even more to make sure we're protecti