it's on the muslim brotherhood site that the met muslim american society is the public face a stablished by the muslim brotherhood if you're for ninety one ninety one these only ever a few that are you saying that's not years old it's not it's not one quote it's not an article please go into the evidence to show you i'm sorry i mean that i want to get this all over that you know you know there are let me get it right on that documentation because we can talk about the muslim brotherhood all we want we can but the greater issue at hand here too is pamela i also know that you're not a fan of building a mosque side of nine eleven there are still these are these issues that are coming up in different communities as in fact there is a chance you think they are going to reassure you that believe that these things these types of decisions also perpetuate the idea that the u.s. is fighting a religious war because we claim that we're not and yet you could say that there is a lot of anti muslim anti islam your prejudice in america and i think that the big threat of organization i am a little yes m

from hamas that israel does in various ways because hamas is allied with iran and with the muslim brotherhoodthis is not what mubarak is looking to having a major role in his country so they're very tough on the gaza people too, primarily because of their political leadership and that's what, when that happened which was really one of the great disasters and something which in part was a result of american policy in forcing gaza into a very strange position with fatah being so weak, i think this is what the consequences are and you can't just escape the consequences, nor can you deal with them if, as a part of trying to deal with the humanitarian situation you end up in some way threatening both egypt and israel. that's the conflict that is inherent in all this. you can't, as was said before, separate these things -- you can't separate the economic things from the political things and from the terrorism that hamas has leashed upon the israelis. >> charlie: you have resided in cairo for eight years. what is their attitude about what's in their interest in gaza? >> well, the egyptian authoritie

prison for five years, he was locked up with the assassins of anwar sadat and leaders of the muslim brotherhoody, if you weren't radicalized up until then, you certainly would've been then. >> nawaz: well, the interesting thing with these guys is that, in the 20 or so years since they've been imprisoned, they'd gone through a process where they had abandoned their jihadist views. >> stahl: they did? >> nawaz: yeah. and my initial reaction was, "oh, my god, you've sold out. and so, i approached them with an idea to try and actually convince them they were wrong. >> stahl: you were going to re- reconvert them? >> nawaz: yeah. and what ended up happening was, through the discussion process, i began doubting the strength of my own convictions. >> stahl: they were able to persuade him that today's radical ideology is closer to fascism than true islam, so after four years in prison, he returned to england in 2006 and soon left h.t. how difficult was that, to break away like that? >> nawaz: it was traumatic. >> stahl: traumatic. >> nawaz: because all my friend's circle... friendship circle, my family.

these communities, where it is so easy to mobilize people when you are that organized, as the muslim brotherhood is. other organizations and political activists do not have a constituency. social activism is still alive and well, but they do not have the numbers. the ability to use a cell phone to call people, rallying large amounts of people in a matter of hours, it cannot be compared to the example of using twitter or facebook. countries like jordan are helping to spread the word. we begin to see a more comprehensive look at society. bringing together people that are online or offline. >> unless they decide to open it up to researchers, is almost impossible research. something we have thought about quite a lot. i wanted to ask you about the projects you are involved with. one of the best stories shows up in your comments section, exciting because you are listened to, terrifying because your listen to. why did this pot hole like it fixed? can you say a few words about any success or your experience with that? >> basically the idea was to create a sense of social media in the country where the a