al qaeda violent jihad, muslim brotherhood -- >> host: let me ask about muslim brotherhood because itoccurs to me if it is powerful first of all what should be illegal in itself but secondly, if the art essentially underwriting sedition in this country which is an unlawful act, why can't we go after them using the same statutes, racketeering and otherwise we went after organized crime? clearly this is a greater threat than the mafia or john gotti or any of those subdivisions and those racketeering statutes are in place one of is that a legitimate way to go after them? >> guest: absolutely legitimately. the holy land foundation trial unindicted co-conspirators or on the right track but nobody's moving. the department of justice just broken a major story about a month ago, fred telehealth this department of justice eric holder department of justice throughout cases against muslim brotherhood operatives in america, threw out the window and said we are not going to pursue. why? >> host: i'm going to close this out by going back to your dad because it seems to me one of the things that may

because i want to talk about the muslim brotherhood. you mentioned in the book but that seems to be part of the threat we either do not acknowledge or know about but won't talk about. >> guest: the saudis provide the money and the brotherhood provides the audit devotee. that's the way that it's sort of the past 40 to 50 years in the west. the muslim brotherhood who is ascendant now in egypt and may very well be in control in that country in the 1950's, 60's, the egyptian government where the brother offended egypt crackdown, killed several brotherhood leaders, are arrested them, executed them, some of the leading lights of the muslim brotherhood then relocated to saudi arabia, sought refuge from a safe haven, hooked up with the saudi government, and from there the brotherhood operatives flushed with saudi petrodollars spread out across europe, across america, the mosques were built. the enclaves were created. so, while the brotherhood and the saudis don't see eye to eye on some things without a doubt they worked closely in the islam west

i want to talk about the muslim brotherhood. at seems to be part of the threat that we either do not acknowledge or no about, but won't talk about. >> guest: the saudis provide the money and the brotherhood provide the ideology. the brotherhood who ascended now in egypt and may gain control in that country, in the 1950s, 60, the egyptian government where the brotherhood was founded e just a minute cracked down, killed them, some of the leading lightings then relocated to saudi arabia, found refuge there, hooked up with the saudi government freding and from there, brotherhood operatives with dollars spread out across europe, america, the mosques were built, the enclaves were created so while the brotherhood and saw dis don't see eye to eye on some things, they have worked closely in the islamization of the west. >> host: does that mean that their goal is the complete islamization of the west? talking about europe or the united states. in other words, they want -- i don't want to put words in your mouth here -- but in the book you

unknown is democracy, not muslim brotherhood. unknown is state of law, not muslim brotherhood. the whole chance now, it is the first time for them to have the power by themselves and to elect a parliament by themselves and to appoint a president by themselves. first time for both since two centuries. suspicious not towards us only. towards everything. >> what is the action you want to see from president obama? >> we ask, stop supporting dictatorships, stop neglecting palestinian rights, stop the war on terrorism which damage the islamic world and, unfortunately, he never done so. >> essam el erian, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we'll be back. >> we must stand with those who want to build pakistan. >> providing this assistance is not only the right thing to do, but we believe it is essential to global security and the security of the united states. >>> now for a story that will get you thinking and might even make you rethink some firmly held views. first some facts. since 9/11 a decade ago, washington has given the government of pakistan more than $20 billion in aid. tw

well the muslim brotherhood. as it is very different today than it was say thirty or even fifty fifty or thirty years ago and as you say this is one branch of different muslim brotherhoods in different countries and today the muslim brotherhood is. it's used as a straw man and so to speak and this was his excuse for for having having a blank check to do whatever he wanted for as long as he wanted if they would come to power but it got many people are looking forward to the possibility you know the muslim brotherhood dominated government because it is traditionally known to be corrupt. because it was very strong. opposition force under mubarak it has a great deal of respect it also is part of its form and it's it's very conservative in terms of moral morals but also in terms of financial and economic policy with the pro-capitalist but. my understanding is that it would be more of a small businessman and that it would not be the favor of monopolists like that really just monopolize the a large part of the economy b

it became the muslim brotherhood leader but it was the brotherhood really stand for. the egyptian people. most of the road is pro business. pro why is there a longstanding we really should intelligence. it really was the cia here which created no g forty so. much so the idea of. clean the terrorist organization is a writ hearing. ok let's talk about the situation in the country at the moment. barack obama nicolas sarkozy they've already pledged to aid egypt and of course tunisia but interesting enough these are two countries they have interim government they haven't had democratic elections and such yet so why would they be putting money into elected on established governments at this stage in those countries. well the governments of the west like spears the notion of democracy in tunisia egypt and my goodness in america those are things that are absolutely intolerable to folks and want to do to force whitehall being able to work friends or so-called. they like governments they couldn't throw so he has a military whatever you names to merge forward because the relatio

we have to accept that there are some of the muslim brotherhoods well they certainly do not represent the majority they certainly will not be in control of the party but the idea that we continue because we don't like the muslim brotherhood and i'm not so sure many people actually do know what the muslim brotherhood aside from a label i don't think people should be and you can so especially that are talking democracy is democracy for everybody is like if you don't think the muslim brotherhood could possibly win this election which is supposed to be happening in september who is then providing the strongest political party because obviously after years of no political opponents in that country i think there is a an organization that is likely to win then at this stage i don't think there will be anybody who's going to have an overall majority i think of nationalist movements and islamist movements will be willing seats i think they will have a coalition government principally the government has to be and the parliament is going to be more of a nationalistic movement some of them are mo

we don't have the muslim brotherhood youth hostels.you're very much involved with everyday science. that's why we have deep roots and grassroots among. lots of people in the west, while the muslim brotherhood is going to destroy the christianity or destroy the church and so on. there have been violations. the violence was three weeks ago and the leaders that the people that they want to enter. and there were young people, muslims and they told what happened. it was organized crime. it was totally organized crime and world money exchange, money laundering and summary dealers. >> of army in the interest of time, thank you for that insight. very complex situation in egypt this certainly can't be wrapped up in just a few minutes. let me turn back to our audience. state your name and affiliation. >> i'm from san francisco, originally from palestine and i represent u.s.-palestinian network. my question is at the beginning of this discussion can be imagined it would take a long time in egypt to get stability, especially very set in and way, j

is already very well organized even do a progressive streak of the muslim brotherhood is splintering and forming their own political party because dizzee younger muslim brotherhood people they see that the old generation is still conservative and that's absolutely true and mohamed el baradei who has been allied with the muslim brotherhood for instance i mean it was also. former secretary of the arab league he's already campaigning so these we can see that this is still. there that he's running for power and the need to hopefully new order in egypt there still largely disorganized so do a good coming back to square a knowledge base it's very good to shoot to use those ships and say look we are very alert we know what's going on even though we're not organized if we actually start fighting for some basic rights that you were fighting for it last february like you know police brutality which was well first reasons for the revolution in the first place i mr escobar now are the family speaking that the current military government it is a military government are they interested a democrati

well the obama administration is now in talks with the muslim brotherhood causing some tensions now with israel so the obama administration on the scene thinks that by going over talking to the muslim brotherhood they can stave off more demonstrations are going to overthrow what is in power at the moment i wonder if the muslim brotherhood is going to be wise about this and presumably they're going to make gaza part of the equation so i'm not sure the american strategy will work in this case as it didn't work when there was that flip flopping by the obama administration before we must remember that joe biden and hillary clinton didn't want to go barak to go through all the mubarak and his cronies so many of them are retaining power he's a very dangerous situation and we mustn't forget what's crucial here for the international it's a national outlook is this is going to hell that's where trade goes through and it is the most populous country arab country in the arab world and we're not hearing anything about this in the corporate news it's as if revolutions done and dusted in the egyptian

the muslim brotherhood is still banned here.hood was put into this law was because the president is saying he's giving confessions to various political parties, maybe trying to apiece the rural conservative people in syria. >> it seems as if the authorities are no longer taking prisoners but simply shooting protesters. have you witnessed any of this? >> no. i mean, here i'm not going to protest because people, you know, if you go to protests you get arrested straight away. the police are shooting protesters here according to activists who i've spoken to here but they're also arresting him in huge numbers at the same time. >> now, imagine if the pictures in your newspaper could, as it were, come to light or the statue in a museum could start talking to you. believe it or not, that is now possible with technology called augmented reality. the advertising industry in particular is putting great hopes on it taking off. our technology correspondent has been finding out more. >> it's one of london's great landmarks but is there someth

is already very well organized even do a progressive streak of the muslim brotherhood is splintering in the forming their own political party because these younger muslim brotherhood people they seek that that the old generation is still conservative and that's absolutely true. well if you've missed something we've been covering on the air you can always find it online called more news and videos of their fuel cell phone calls then the hell they may point to prophecy by in taking it including your clothes but it seems that airport scanners also pose a health risk to new data use high levels of radiation. and the very unlikely friendship when the russians were fox has adopted the rooster instead of having a dinner chantelle top of the something he. is he. believes. down the official auntie application to go on the phone all i pod touch from the shops to. watch all she life on the go. video on demand. old girls and streets now in the palm of your. question on all t.v. dot com. now to some other international stories in brief the south venezuela has delayed that next week's major summit

in the forming their own political party because these young muslim brotherhood people they see that the old generation is still servants and that's absolutely true. but national credit rating companies standard and poor's has threatened to downgrade us standing from aaa to a d. if washington fails to meet its interest repayments congress and the treasury department have until august fourth to raise the country's debt ceiling if it's to avoid a default situation united states national debt amounts to more than fourteen trillion dollars at the moment radio host an analyst ricardo young from voice of russia radio says republicans and democrats must agree on the new measures if the country is to avoid a financial crisis unfortunate but the republican side of the party has decided to basically walk out of the talks and what they're saying right now is that president obama needs to show leadership as he said it is a news conference today show leadership on this issue but even he is saying look we've got issues to take care of here we got to get back to the table and talk about this now mo

eric holder throughout some cases against muslim brotherhood operatives and 70 will not pursue. why? >> i want to close this out because it seems what may be competing with our ability to fully understand the threat is there are not enough guys like your dad who fought for the country or receive 12 when they came back gore had to deal with adverse politics. are we now missing a generation who were sold enshrined of the freedom we don't appreciate what they fought for? >> absolutely. 35 years old but i was raised with strong family unit and strong influence and raised in the right way. nothing was handed and today there is a sense of entitlement in this country with video games, text messaging, so many distractions that people are not as grounded. we talk vice -- face-to-face sometimes someone is across the classroom your text messaging there is a 10 chin deficit. who has time to sit down and read the q'uaran? >> one word of encouragement i talked to her people and i seen at the younger generation with definite glimmers of hope. that is one word of encouragement because there is

in the forming their own political party because these young muslim brotherhood people they seek that that the old generation is still conservative and that's absolutely true. russian orphans face a tough childhood but being an adult can be even worse well the government legally has to provide housing for anyone at leaving care but as peter all over reports that often doesn't happen. in dilapidated. this flop looks more like a prime candidate for demolition than a family home but twenty two year old mother of two lena has been told by social services that she's stuck here. perhaps they haven't seen this place inside they keep telling us true parents somehow believe here they showed me a paper on how to build a house i told them that i had no phones i have no job i have to take care of kids and i ended up renting a place they said it's not top problem lena grew up in an orphanage in the city of to bear under russian law she should have received state housing once she left the institution this flat was given to lena's mother by the state and despite having no money she's been told to fi

is already very well organized even do a progressive streak of the muslim brotherhood is splintering and forming their own political party because these younger muslim brotherhood people they seek that that the old generation is still conservative and that's absolutely true. if you've missed something that we've been covering on the air you can always find it online a couple more news in the eye catching begins at their future as well as a taste of how they manage regional prophecy by taking a peek we feel close but it seems that the sternness home so pose a health risk to new data reveals a high levels of radiation. found a very unlikely friendship and the russians were fox has adopted the roost instead of having it for dinner. or other videos tell you change. is easy to. believe. the official altie have location your phone on called talk from the top story. the law is on the go. video on demand parties in my old girls and already street now in the palm of your. auntie dot com. now to some of the international stories in brief this out it is a way that has been laid to next week's m

in the form of their own political party because dizzee younger muslim brotherhood people they seek that that the old generation is still conservative and that's absolutely true. well that if you miss something we've been covering all day you can always spot it online that's all t dot com more news on the eye catching video there he was part of the ten steps they risk embarrassment by taking a peek didn't feel close but it seems the airport scanners also is a risk to health new data on radiation could cause cancer. under very unlikely friendship a russian zoo sees a fox a doctor who started taking care of the bird instead of having it for dinner check out all the video. is eat eat eat eat eat. eat eat eat eat eat eat eat. come. down the official altie obligation your only phone oh i pod touch from the shops to . watch all the life on the go. video on demand all teasing my old girls and streets now in the palm of your. question on the dot com. there are some other international stories in brief but is way to hard today the next week's major summit of latin america has been leaders wh

we don't have the muslim brotherhood youth hostels.you're very much involved with everyday science. that's why we have deep roots and grassroots among. lots of people in the west, while the muslim brotherhood is going to destroy the christianity or destroy th church and so on. there have been violations. the violence was three weeks ago and the leaders that the people that they want to enter. and there were young people, muslims and they told what happened. it was organized crime. it was totally organized crime and world money exchange, money laundering and summary dealers. >> of army in the interest of time, thank you for that insight. very complex situation in egypt this certainly can't be wrapped up in just a few minutes. let me turn back to or audience. state your name and affiliation. >> i'm from san francisco, originally from palestine and i represent u.s.-palestinian network. my question is at the beginning of this discussion can be imagined it would take a long time in egypt to get stability, especially very set in and way, jus

is already very well organized even do a progressive streak of the muslim brotherhood is splintering in the form of their own political party because dizzee younger muslim brotherhood people they see that the old generation is too conservative and that's absolutely true. well again. now at some world news in brief for you this hour two french journalists who were being held hostage by the taliban in afghanistan have been freed they've flown back home after spending five hundred forty seven days in captivity the two men are said to be in good health in good spirits the t.v. reporter and his camera man were captured with afghan colleagues in late two thousand and nine filming in a mountainous area of the country. but as well i have to lade next week's major summit of latin american and caribbean leaders as will go chavez is still recovering from surgery in cuba it comes after state television showed that fifty six year old talking to fidel castro in appearance which failed to qualify and over as how chavez will also miss mass celebrations marking the two hundred year anniversary of ven

is splintering in the forming their own political party because these younger muslim brotherhood people they see that the old generation is too conservative and that's absolutely true and know what the rule has been allied with the muslim brotherhood for instance i mean looser former secretary of the arab league he's already campaigning so these we can see that this is still. there that he's running for power in the new hopefully new order in egypt these two were largely designed guys so who wait good coming back to square nowadays it's. good to shoot new still ships and say look we are very alert we know what's going on even though we're not organized we actually start fighting for some reason christ or do we're fighting for unless people wear it like you know police brutality which was what first reasons for doing pollution in the first place i mr escobar now are that frankly speaking that the current military government is a military government are they interested in democratic elections in egypt which can undermine its authority again after all it's a military government it's a very

in the form of their own political party because dizzee younger muslim brotherhood people they seek that the old generation is still conservative and that's absolutely true. well if you've missed something we've been covering on the air you can always find it online on t v dot com more news and eye catching videos are there for you as well and these are taste in the u.s. more and more states are relinquishing the duties of running prisons and this private detention is thriving critics say it's because of the millions of dollars that institutions are making also. music souls to new heights as a nasa astronauts joins three tongues from not going out of this world do it. you don't go. to some other international stories in grade two french journalists who were being held hostage in afghanistan been three. back to spending one hundred forty seven days in captivity two men ourselves we improve health and good spirits the t.v. reporter and his camera man were captured in late two thousand and nine while filming in a mountainous area of the country. venezuela has delayed next week's major

and now that they are looking to or three months into the post revolutionary era the muslim brotherhood is the single most powerful tool in egypt and i was just there two weeks ago and met with the top three leaders of the brotherhood a political party. they are pretty confident about the strength. that said, they are not trying to win a majority because they are worried that might worry people too much but they could win a plurality of the vote. i think we ought not to be as worried about the brotherhood organization that has been long been part of the political process but overseeing that it's the islamist parties emerging really almost out of nowhere and you have a group that's trying to form political parties so they are going to enter the electoral ring so you add the muslim brotherhood through the parties and there's also one or two progress of islamist parties. altogether they could work 50% of the seats in parliament. again, i think a lot of the alarm that we have in washington is on found it because again, we are not as radical as we sometimes think they are and in some ways th

>> the muslim brotherhood is used for a long time as a scare tactic. they don't have design, i think this close systems, it will only go to the brotherhood. in pluralistic open systems, the brotherhood will have to compete against many other alternatives, that's the way it should go to. >> now, you have met bashar assad when you were foreign minister. many called him a reformer, many thought he had high hopes. the u.s. administration has been trying to woo the syrians back into the sort of league of nations, if you like. what is it about him that turned him this way. why is he doing this? or is he always going to do that to hold on to power? >> he's been in power for 11 years. he's had a chance to put his people in power and implement reforms. the fact he has not done so. or, suggests that he has a system around him, which, as i said, has no interest in opening up the system and putting his own neck on the line. whatever the case, i think, today, the end result is the same. >> is he history? can he hold on? >> i don't think so. i think any regime that

and now that they are looking to or three months into the post revolutionary era the muslim brotherhood is the single most powerful tool in egypt and i was just there two weeks ago and met with the top three leaders of the brotherhood a political party. they are pretty confident about the strength. that said, they are not trying to win a majority because they are worried that might worry people too much but they could win a plurality of the vote. i think we ought not to be as worried about the brotherhood organization that has been long been part of the political process but overseeing that it's the islamist parties emerging really almost out of nowhere and you have a group that's trying to form political parties so they are going to enter the electoral ring so you add the muslim brotherhood through the parties and there's also one or two progress of islamist parties. altogether they could work 50% of the seats in parliament. again, i think a lot of the alarm that we have in washington is on found it because again, we are not as radical as we sometimes think they are and in some ways th

the muslim brotherhood is still banned here. i think the reason it was put into this law is because the president is trying to say he is giving concessions to various other political parties, may be trying to appease row conservatives here. -- royal conservatives. >> it now appears they are simply protesting -- simply shooting protesters. >> i am not going to protest. if you go to protest, you will be arrested straight away. they are shooting protests here, according to activists i have spoken to. they are also arresting them in huge numbers. >> following the latest diplomatic efforts by south paprika, colonel gaddafi has again insisted he will never leave libya. there have been a series of explosions in tripoli. we have this report from the front lines. >> moving forward on the misrata front line. antiaircraft guns being used against khadafy's army. behind them, rubbles provide covering fire for the four- wheel-drive vehicles as they withdraw from another assault. it is like this every day, firing when they see movement and the

are we supporting the muslim brotherhood? the muslim brotherhood in egypt has opened up the border, the government of egypt, whatever that is right now, has opened up the border between egypt and gaza. which provides a mechanism for weapons to get into gaza to fire on israel. so before we start supporting a rebel movement and going after somebody like gaddafi, we ought to find out who we arefor. we are spending billions of dollars before this over in a war where w don't even know who we are supporting, and it's in violation of the war powers act in the constitution. this is something we should not be doing. the president should have come down here and made his case. he should have said what our goals are. he should have said who we are supporting and why are we supporting them? we are in a war against terrorism and we may very well end up with terrorists controlling libya and egypt. and that is a tinderbox we don't want. we get about 35% of our energy from that part of the world and if all hell breaks loose because we have go

is the most group be the muslim brotherhood is declared illegal in egypt ahead of kid parliamentary elections this is the country is due to receive a three billion dollars loan from the international monetary fund to prop up its economy. graco were not allowed in about fifteen minutes in the meantime russian gas giant gazprom is looking to cash in on the trend to wind down nuclear energy in the wake of the fukushima disaster in japan the company's now seeking a larger share of the german energy market after berlin vowed to shut down all of its nuclear power plants when r.t. is caught up with a top official to get his vision of the future of gas. today we're joined by mr alexander medvedev now he is the deputy chairman of the management committee of russian oil company gas promise of all as the director general of the company's export arm i thank you very much sir for joining us today administrator now the german germany's decision to about the nuclear power altogether and switch to natural gas this is quite a big decision of to say the least now is gas prom looking to fulfill a gap in that ma

there was something about the muslim brotherhood seeing renewed support.rhood who could, in fact, lead this country? >> even though the muslim brotherhood was banned, as you know, erica, it was tolerated by the government and therefore it became one of the best organized opposition groups in egypt. now the reason some people are concerned about the muslim brotherhood is because since its founding pack in 1928, it has been all about establishing what is known in islam as the bringing back of islamic government, bringing back islamic hegeminy in that part of the region. people are concerned about that. the vast majority of people in egypt say they're not concerned. the polling that you read, the most reputable polling we've seen, most folks in egypt believe they're going to have a secular government not involved in islamic radicalism. >> elizabeth palmer has a lengthy piece on "the evening news" tonight, there's a doctrine in that piece. what's the piece behind that doctrine? >> we wanted to go back to egypt to find out where we are at this point. we're at t

it's run by the muslim brotherhood, a group that used to be outlawed for alleged extremism. but since tahrir square is operating openly. dr. abdel-rahman, while not an official member, is delighted. >> reporter: he dreams of a tolerant egypt, spreading the word one town hall meeting at a time. there are hard-liners in the brotherhood who'd like to impose strict islamic rule here, but a recent poll shows the group's support among decided voters at only 15%. still, the doctor fears his political vision is too progressive for this conservative society. >> reporter: they are the things he fought for in tahrir square and that some of his friends died for. does that still haunt you? >> reporter: a sacrifice that left dictatorship in the past but democracy still lying some distance ahead. elizabeth palmer, cbs news, egypt. >> pelley: just today the muslim brotherhood got the o.k. to run a slate of candidates in parliamentary elections in september. egyptians will elect a new president in november. in minnesota, a young man was murdered and his killer was sent to prison. then the st

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what can you tell us about a report that young members of the muslim brotherhood, which you and i haveout, plan to start their own secular political party. >> you know, i think that this is part of the trend within the muslim brotherhood in egypt where the younger members of the group are less ideological than the older members. a lot of older members, of course, have spent a great deal of time in prison and tend to be perhaps more militant or more wedded to older ways of thinking, so the muslim brotherhood of which, you know, a pretty large group, the fact that they are planning to set up their own party that is more secular in orientation is not surprising, and the muslim brotherhood in general has allied with another party in egypt which is more secular in its orientation for the election that's coming up in september, so this is part of a trend, i think, that the muslim brotherhood sen gaging in conventional politics, and -- and that's a good thing. >> all right. peter bergen, appreciate your insight. thank you. >>> 22 minutes paf the hour. time to check our top stories for you. fo

and now that they are looking to or three months into the post revolutionary era the muslim brotherhood is the single most powerful tool in egypt and i was just there two weeks ago and met with the top three leaders of the brotherhood a political party. they are pretty confident about the strength. that said, they are not trying to win a majority because they are worried that might worry people too much but they could win a plurality of the vote. i think we ought not to be as worried about the brotherhood organization that has been long been part of the political process but overseeing that it's the islamist parties emerging really almost out of nowhere and you have a group that's trying to form political parties so they are going to enter the electoral ring so you add the muslim brotherhood through the parties and there's also one or two progress of islamist parties. altogether they could work 50% of the seats in parliament. again, i think a lot of the alarm that we have in washington is on found it because again, we are not as radical as we sometimes think they are and in some ways th

what is the relationship if any between al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood? >> it is a relationship that perhaps at one time in history was similar, but i think in the recent years there has been forces where ayman al-zawahiri was a teacher of al qaeda now but until recently bin ladens's deputy certainly in recent months attacked the bus or a hood and egypt and hamas which is part of the muslim brotherhood network and gaza for attempting to make peace with israel and in a kind of negotiations in egypt for getting to participate in any kind of a space process so we're talking to the phenomena that have maybe some ideological similarities that is quite separate and different >> al-zawahiri managed to write a book denouncing the muslim brotherhood and while on the run being hunted i of difficulty writing a book sitting in my office for years on end without such interruption so the fact that he puts such effort into it he is also had quite a bitter relations with hamas, the palestinian terrorist group that is also a muslim brotherhood of shoot. so i think it is w

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he joined the muslim brotherhood after two of his older brothers had joined at age 16. so we arrived in america are roughly 18 years old and is unprepared for what he sees. they interviewed the man who picked him up at the airport who drove him to murphy's or a feared what he remembers years later -- remember his khalid sheikh been surprised by what he saw. first you survive by the geography, intense scrutiny. we see trees in kuwait there behind walls. here there were trees everywhere. more surprising and more strange and more putting than the trees were the people in what they were doing. he was sitting in lawn chairs on their front lawn, visible from the road, growing up, playing with kids, taking a hosted wishes us a different window. what surprised them with so much of american family life had been in public. this is not the kind of thing that would happen in the arab world. the more time he spent in north carolina, the more he was persuaded that americans are really backward. they did things that should be private and public. they trusted each other very quickly an