every single case it's never the west against the muslims it's always some muslims fighting other muslims and we're coming on the side of one party the inconsistency however is that sometimes we're fighting the islamists and other times of fighting with the islamists so for example in syria we're hoping the islamists in mali we can include france as we are fighting the islamists so there is a very inconsistent message i believe that western powers should always be against the islamists honestly fighting them but always against them and why only reason why do they always be against the modern was the secular dislocate which should be people on the ground make that choice and we can join so our ground go ahead. well i didn't say i didn't say we should always fight them i said we should our policy if i were the policy maker in my country i would say always opposed is the most just as in the 1930's out of always opposed to fascists or the one nine hundred sixty are always of opposed the communists always oppose these brutal fertile tarion thugs always oppose and whether they're wearing ties a

with some muslims against other muslims are plenty of muslims who don't want islam itself and we are sometimes helping them as in mali and sometimes we're working against them but i am not characterizing a billion people i'm saying there are many divisions in the muslim world and i think we should help the modern secular muslims because they are the people see the world like we do we won't always win we want they won't always win but we should help them they're the people that we have a philosophical and moral and practical connection to. i'm not characterizing what i'm saying that we should use our influence to help those people who are modern democratic. and the like. i i agree with you that we can't impose our will i'm not trying to impose our will but we do well in the west does impose it will it's we'll have all of that in calling influence so we should it does all of the time i also use where it should afghanistan is a good one iraq is a good one yemen eccentric cetera i mean why is the use of force there. i'll go out to look at the blowback situation is what we're going to bac

about muslims and islam than we realize a lot of people don't know muslims because we're less than one percent of the population so in order to have a public positive opinion you might not be able to actually know a muslim or meet a muslim person but just go out and educate yourself and read about the faith and about the people and i think that's a good place to start thank you. so much for coming on for your time and. your very able counsel care for sure that. you see in order for war to function the oppressed must be an enemy in the eyes of the oppressors for the senate me to be maintained the media and the government must work together to sustain it this is humanization and demonization of an entire race and religion is what i call the islamophobia machine a machine whose gears of racism will continue to grind as long as these wars continue to be fought so you and i need to put our bodies on the gears to stop it. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so poorly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize

online video footage showing muslims and forcing their own shari'a law zones in london to escalate seething ethnic tensions. to the how when and why. the f.b.i. responded with us civil liberties groups demanding to know exactly how americans are being monitored it received a blank leaving them more in the. pleasure to have you with us here today. live in moscow with news from around the world. now the u.k.'s prime minister is threatening to split the european hard to give the british people of vote on whether to leave if brussels doesn't agree to some major changes although that will only happen if he wins the next election in a landmark speech david cameron hit out at the union's closer integration saying it should recognise the diversity of its members unquote not snuff it out let's get more details on the. e.u. today so cameron finally got the referendum off what do you think about the results of what he had to say. essentially what he was trying to say is that he believed that britain and also members of the european union would be more prosperous if they just pretty much concentrated o

online video footage showing muslims enforcing the own shari'a law is in london threaten to escalate it see the ethnic tensions. to the question how when and why the government can track its citizens the f.b.i. responded with it's so our u.s. civil liberties group demanding to know exactly how americans are being monitored and receive a blank reply leaving them ever more in the dark. you're watching us here live from moscow it's good to have you whether it's. now the u.k.'s prime minister is threatening to leave the european union apart pledging to give the british people a vote on whether to leave if brussels doesn't agree to some major changes that will happen only if his party wins the next election and the landmark speech david cameron hit out at the union's ever closer integration saying it should recognise the diversity of its members and not a snuff it out and for more now joined by aussies andrew farmer hello there andrea so what were the highlights of this long awaited speech of david cameron that. well essentially he did pledge to offer the british public a referendum on wh

non-aligned is showing muslims enforcing their own sharia law in london threaten to escalate to see the ethnic tensions. also russia's foreign minister holds a major news conference now summing up the world's events that shaped the past here stressing the dangers of the turmoil in the arab world and africa. to the question how when and why the government can track its citizens the f.b.i. responded with this. u.n. civil liberties group demanding to know exactly how americans are being monitored receive a blank reply leaving them at the mall in the dark. and netanyahu is narrow when the israeli prime minister claims victory in a snap general election but his policy is poor performance means tough political horse trading lays ahead to form a cabinet. this is coming to you live from moscow hello and welcome to the program. to man had been arrested in the u.k. for being part of a vigilante group calling themselves a muslim patriot but troll video footage shows you people telling them they have entered an islamic area and should a base sharia law and as a sign a friend tells us even that musl

online video footage showing muslims enforcing the own shari'a law zones in london threaten to escalate its seething ethnic tensions. to the park and how when and why the government can track its citizens the f.b.i. responded with it's. a us civil liberties groups demanding to know exactly how americans are being monitored receive a blank reply leaving them at the mall in the dark. and netanyahu is narrow when the israeli prime minister claims victory in a snub general election but he's part is poor performance means tough political course trading days ahead to former cabinet. international news live from moscow this is with me hello and welcome to the program. to a man has been arrested in the u.k. for being part of the vigilante group calling themselves muslim patrol beautified it shows you is harassing people telling them that they have entered and islam missed islamic area and should obey sharia law and there's a first tell that even though muslim leaders in london condemns the group it's so causing a lot of anger. an islamic vigilante group that's what they call themselves a small

online video footage showing muslims and forcing their own. london. to the. u.s. civil liberties group demanding to know exactly how americans are being monitored to receive a blank reply leaving them in the dark. with a worldwide news live from moscow this is he with me welcome to the program. the prime minister is threatening to split the european union apart to give the british people of vote on whether to leave. doesn't agree to some major changes although that will happen he wins the next election in a landmark speech david cameron head of the union's ever closer integration should recognise the diversity of its members are not snuff it out with this report. he believes that britain and also members of the european union would be more prosperous if they just pretty much concentrated on the single market and if brussels gave european members more autonomy over their own economic policy he says that so often that britain particularly during this economic crisis has had to abide by direct is given to it from brussels and that has not been good for the economy he

of able to articulate that and the leadership of the country in the form of mohamed morsi and the muslim brotherhood has alienated many people and made many mistakes throughout the process sort of form a cut deals with the institutions of the state and the army to consolidate its power which goes against everything that their revolution represents however the proviso is we need to look at this from a historical perspective this is an ongoing process there will be a lot of chaos a lot of contestation before it's down towards a more kind of progressive path forward coral's i can stay with you it looks like a lot of the opposition though are they aren't willing to give more time western media doesn't want to give more time or some capitals are disillusioned i mean do you think they're giving up on this revolution too quickly if you look at the historical context. i think part of the problem with the egyptian revolution is that turned into a form of a spectator sport where outside there is get to have their saying i mean i shouldn't be saying that i'm a spectator external observer is well bu

of able to articulate that and the leadership of the country in the form of mohamed morsi and the muslim brotherhood has alienated many people and made many mistakes throughout the process and sort of formed a cut deals with the institutions of the state and the army to consolidate its power which goes against everything that their evolution represents however the proviso is we need to look at this from a historical perspective this is an ongoing process there will be a lot of chaos a lot of contestation before it's down towards a more kind of progressive path forward coral's i can stay with you it looks like a lot of the opposition though or they are willing to give more time western media doesn't want to give more time or some capitals are disillusioned i mean do you think they're giving up on this revolution too quickly if you look at a historical context. but i think part of the problem with the egyptian revolution is that turned into a form of a spectator sport where outside there is get to have their saying i mean i shouldn't be saying that i'm a spectator external observer is well

christians and muslims have the same god. it is not the same religion, but we have much in common. >> but others could not accept the idea of muslims praying in a former christian church. >> i think it would be better if they set up a mosque someplace else in town. if the christians keep giving ground, we will lose our faith and identity. after all, france is a christian country. >> the sale of the church would not have had a happy ending. for the archdiocese responsible for the church got involved and decided instead to sell the church to a charity. the bishop justified the decision by saying the paris- based charity was nondenominational. this even though it is called the fraternity of st. aloysius and is dedicated to the same st. as the church. they are collecting donations to buy the building. their motto "stop the mosque" makes their position clear. >> we are opposed to converting the church into a mosque. christenings, weddings, and funerals were once held there. now that will all be wiped away. the church will be somet

christians and muslims have the same god. it is not the same religion, but we have much in common. >> but others could not accept the idea of muslims praying in a former christian church. >> i think it would be better if they set up a mosque someplace else in town. if the christians keep giving ground, we will lose our faith and identity. after all, france is a christian country. >> the sale of the church would not have had a happy ending. for the archdiocese responsible for the church got involved and decided instead to sell the church to a charity. the bishop justified the decision by saying the paris- based charity was nondenominational. this even though it is called the fraternity of st. aloysius and is dedicated to the same st. as the church. they are collecting donations to buy the building. their motto "stop the mosque" makes their position clear. >> we are opposed to converting the church into a mosque. christenings, weddings, and funerals were once held there. now that will all be wiped away. the church will be somet

to cross-talk the west's assault on the muslim world i'm joined by johnson in london he is an africa expert and in philadelphia we have daniel pipes he is a historian writer and political commentator all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want if i can go to you first in london.

we have the muslim brotherhood.is black block, oh boy and they were just labeled today as terrorists. what do we make of black block and what implications could that have on egyptian. >> it's really a recent development on all sides. that is to say when there were protests in the way morsi pushed through a new constitution, there were peaceful demonstrators outside of the presidential palace. they were attacked by muslim brothers who formed an informal militia for this purpose. there are elements in the opposition that attack government buildings that have set fire to headquarters of the muslim brotherhood in cairo and in the provinces. so you had kind of vigilante action but the brotherhood is very well organized. it's cadre, they've been at this for a long time. they know each other. apparently some of the leftest youth have declared that they'll set up this anarchist protection unit for the secular demonstrators against muslim of brotherhood thugs. >> if you're black mask it makes it so easy for the government se

of able to articulate that and the leadership of the country in the form of mohamed morsi and the muslim brotherhood has alienated many people and made many mistakes throughout the process and sort of formed a cut deals with the institutions of the state and the army to consolidate its power which goes against everything that their evolution represents however the proviso is we need to look at this from a historical perspective this is an ongoing process there will be a lot of chaos a lot of contestation before it's down towards a more kind of progressive path forward coral's i can stay with you it looks like a lot of the opposition though are they aren't willing to give more time western media doesn't want to give more time or some capitals are disillusioned i mean do you think they're giving up on this revolution too quickly if you look at the historical context. i think part of the problem with the egyptian revolution is that turned into a form of a spectator sport where outside there is get to have their saying i mean i shouldn't be saying that i'm a spectator external observer is we

we report on the so-called muslim patrol group posting their own vigilante videos online showing them harassing innocent passers by get reaction to that and also a complete information blackout american citizens are spied upon by their own f.b.i. but the bureau refuses to explain who they're tracking why individuals are being targeted. hello good evening love it have you with us we're here watching around the world this is r.t. international my name's kevin zero in first tonight israel reporting a record turnout with millions queuing at ballot boxes nationwide for that snap parliamentary election there's been less than an hour left now to vote but few doubt who will win with predictions of an even more right wing and a hardline government on the cards at the core of the vote are three issues rocketing living costs iran's nuclear ambitions and the peace deadlock with the palestinians oh it was uncompromising stance premise to expected to not only hold on to power but solidify sway over israel and strategic alliances now polls publications in general agree that it's the center and left

and the muslim world has got so bad.i've come here to cairo to seek a new beginning between the united states and muslims around the world words of promise that field of region with hope will respect but as a bomb a begins his second term in office his critics failed him want to first term that fell far short of expectations progress on peace between israelis and palestinians remain stored the promised economic development of afghanistan never took root and american relations with post mubarak egypt deteriorated and i didn't see if the u.s. and elegance community has more or less thought that it was in control of something called the muslim brotherhood and they brought them from egypt into saudi arabia and i think they thought they could just break out of that wasn't all they could have. asked r.t. or asked and there are five now that i'm not we. also. in libya the u.s. supported the intervention by nato and its allies touting it as a great advance for security entry and rights but the fallout from it ended with the deat

we reject a muslim brotherhood state. we want a constitution that represents and protect the reprights of all egyptians. >> protesters took to the streets in many other cities as well. in alexandria, dozens were injured in clashes with the police. >> we go to cairo now. tell us how chaotic the situation is. >> behind me, tahrir square is relatively peaceful, but a few hundred meters away at the state television building, there were big clashes in the last hours. also the military came down onto the streets in front of the television building. we have basically clashes in many places in alexandria, in cairo, but also in upper egypt. in all, they say we have 119 injured people. >> how would you compare this situation to two years ago? >> they are very different. the muslim brotherhood, left liberals were all standing at the square against hosni mubarak. now, we have a very polarized situation in egypt politically. today, we have an opposition that is demonstrating against the muslim brotherhood. the president in the muslim

bank to muslim brotherhood. people voted for them to give them a chance so quick at the last support of most of these people who are out in the streets to the people in egypt now do realize that. religion and politics should not be mixed clearly and that some nations would use slam and religion to get the support of the people and once the are in power the would act in a very very differently from what the have been promising and that's part of one of the reasons of the anger you seeing today in this three to egypt. americans want some ways committee to ensure and secure their interest in egypt but now their pictures and the reality has shown that actually muslim brotherhood does not have they were short of the support of the majority of the people in egypt now there is only one party that's actually will decide what's happening in egypt and that's the people of egypt neither the united states nor morsi himself have much say in what's happening today the people of egypt who are back in the streets that. we saw t

there was a lot of what was opposition that the muslim brotherhood had come into the muslim brotherhood was winning not on an appeal of imposing a fee irene ne style of sharia law but was basically on the bread-and-butter to revive the economy to get people back to work. it was tapping into the daily concerns that ordinary voters have all or none of the world. and unfortunately, you may have situations and you will have situations where the radical groups can hijack qualities such as in egypt or libya or syria or elsewhere where you don't have a strong push back, and that's what i'm suggesting we and our allies in the west need to help provide support to these brave liberals and moderates in the muslim world who do want to pushback but just need the tools to be able to do so. >> i will try to answer to that question about god and liberty. i think it goes to the idea that in the concept of god we have indeed judeo christian approach that each individual has a soul, and that means each individual is an individual and no to souls are alike and that is the basis for a quality because that m

but protesters also said they had scores of their muslim brotherhood on fire while to hire square in cairo has been the epicenter of the rally is much like during the uprising to oust was in a bike two years ago alexandria and sayed were also seen as a violent street clashes. in the editor is online newspaper says the people of egypt have grown increasingly disillusioned with the politics of the muslim brotherhood people who voted for them to give them a chance for. the last support of most of the people who are out in the streets to the people in egypt now who realize that. religion and politics should not be mixed clearly and that some patients would use. religion to get the support of the people and once the are the would act in a very very differently from what the have been promising and that's part of one of the reasons of their anger are you seeing to the industry to egypt. americans want from this community to ensure and secure their interest in egypt but now their pictures and the reality has shown that actually muslim brotherhood does not have they were short of the support

it is the authentic voice of the muslim world and how do we know it's authentic? they hate america, the ultimate proof. it remind me of the old days in lat tip america when the carter administration thought that the wave of the future, the authentic voice of the people was groups like the fmln in el salvador. how do you know they are authentic? they hated america. you see the refusal to engage in political warfare in places like egypt, where, you know, 48% of the people voted against morsi for president. they didn't want a brotherhood president, and right now, today, this week, thousands of egyptians out in the street protesting, only we're not protesting. the state department said expressed concern when he did a little constitutional coo a few days ago, concern, which is about the weakest word in the state department lexicon. my fear is you have millions of people in arab countries who want to fight for democracy and moderation and the rule of law, and they are fighting. they are going to have a tough struggle, and we're not going to support them. we, the united

pensions and causes a lot of control this i think the muslim community core c.-k. really. what this. done to try and distance themselves from the east london must say that it is designed to stick up tension so there's very much i don't this is on distancing themselves from that's life behavior but certainly this is part of what why did the base in the area of london where the police think that this video was filmed in east london is an area that see this argument come up a number of times in the past couple of years with fundamentalist leaks in these areas making a lot of noise about wanting to hear a lot implemented and it is a very touchy subject for a lot of people as we said very threatening behavior in those videos. our time for you to get involved from r.t. dot com we're asking in our poll what will result from the actions of the muslim patrol in london here the choices that you can also mostly true is from would it cause a rise in religious tensions in the u.k. that's the first one there are three more coming after it will cause an increase in muslim fundamentalism

. >> certainly in the muslim community that's very obvious. since 9-11 that's increased but even before 9-11 there were so many stereotypes out there, whether from hollywood, which portrayed muslim as terrorists, as womanizers, to just a host of campaigns over the last few years from the ground zero mosque to the koran burning, local and national campaigns against building mosques, all of these are obviously going to impact children and their parents and if they are at home hearing their parents talk about muslims in a certain way, they are going to take that to school with them. i have experienced this in my own growing up, which was long before 9-11, just the lack of information or the misinformation i experienced again with my own children, particularly when there's an event that happens overseas they will come to school and kids will reflect that in comments about did your parents commit another terrorist act, was that your dad that did this. it's common for kids to be called bin laden, daughter of saddam. a lot of times events overseas wi

evenly split between christians in south and muslims in the north. kano is overwhelming muslim.hey use the city and surrounding areas as a base of operation. >> this is difficult to share the gospel in the extreme northern parts of nigeria. >> joshua works quietly. cbn news agreed to conceal his identity. he says the indigenous people consider christians as invaders and members of a western religion. >> i was born and raised here. because i am a christian, i am viewed and treated as a second and third and fourth-class citizen. >> boko haram is provoking christians into attacking muslims. some neighborhoods are taking measures to defend themselves. others rely on god for protection and take comfort in his word. >> even when i walk through the dark valley of death, i will not be afraid, for you are close beside me. >> george thomas, cbn news, kano, nigeria. >> thank you, george. up next, the gracea burnham story, how she and her kids are still serving the lord, today, stay tuned. >> in 2012, gracia burnham marked 10 years since the end of her captivity at the hands of killers. i t

online video footage showing muslims enforcing their own sharia law those in london threaten to escalate see the ethnic tension. to the question how when and why the government can track its citizens the f.b.i. responded with it's a us civil liberties group demanding to know exactly how americans are being monitored receive a blank reply leaving them ever more in the dark. and netanyahu is narrow when the israeli prime minister claims victory in a snob general election but his party's poor performance means tough political course trading days ahead to form a cabinet. and around the world this is she was me you know thanks for joining us. tomorrow and i have been arrested in the u.k. for being part of a vigilante group calling themselves muslim patrol for it it shows you is harassing people telling them they have entered an islamic area and should obey shari'a law and as our first reports now even though muslim leaders in london condemn the group it's still causing a lot of anger. and islamic vigilante groups that's what they call themselves a small number of people who were going up to m

backed muslim brotherhood. people who voted for him to give him a good chance. at the last. for most of the people who are out in the streets to the people in egypt now truly are is that. religion and politics should not be mixed clearly and some nations would use slam and religion to get the support of the people and once the are being in a very very differently from what the have been promising and that's. one of the reasons of their anger you seeing to the industry to egypt. americans want some risk of it indeed to insure and secure their interest in egypt but now their pictures and the reality has shown that actually muslim. does not have. the support of the majority of people in egypt now there is only one party that's actually will decide what's happening in egypt and that's the people of egypt neither the united states nor morsi himself much say and what's happening to the people of egypt who are back in the street. we see the freaks of the regime today. are saying to humans are here and are with the rest escalating in egypt support sayad it's after according cairo ha