to talk with mustafa qadri, the author of the amnesty international report, "will i be next? u.s.one strikes in pakistan." he is pakistan researcher at amnesty international. welcome to democracy now! you talk about these drone strikes in pakistan as possible war crimes, that the u.s. is engaged in them. lay out your case. entiree not saying the program constitutes war crimes. what we're saying is particularly rescuer attacks may constitute war crimes. we are talking, for example, some laborers in a very impoverished village your the afghanistan border that targeted . those who come to rescue or look for survivors are themselves targeted. in great detail i witnesses, victims who survived, tell us about the terror and panic as drones hovered overhead. there are other cases in the report where we talk about people being targeted coming to rescue people also killed. those cases a constitute war crimes. that is a very big claim. with the secrecy surrounding the program, the remoteness of this area, we can only get the truth once the u.s. comes clean and explains what are the justifica

i want to start with you, mustafa qadri by asking how do you quantify strikes the u.s. won't confirm. >> that's a really good question. the problem is, this is a region which is so remote, so lawless and a program that's so secretive that even finding the details of nine strikes out of 47 inform the last 18 months is very difficult. so even just getting information about a couple of strikes is a great achievement. >> ifill: how did you it? >> basically we have a developed team, independent researchers, people trusted by us who have worked on human right issues with us. we get them go to these regions, talk to local people in an environment where they're trusted, they feel safe, basically they can those facts, any gaps in it we go back. we treat this information initially very keptally. after we've got the information and we're confident with what we've got we compare it with audio material, satellite, traffic imagery. the report we have is based on thoroughly researched testimony. >> ifill: mr. dunlap, do you trust the numbers? the way they've gathered their information

third team what they found was very little legal justification for these killings lead researcher mustafa qadri describes one of them on the sixth of july two thousand and twelve eighteen mile a bird is including at least one young boy a fourteen year old khan were killed by a u.s. drone in the first strike eight men were instantly killed while they were having they didn't go off for a long difficult day in the field as people came to assist them those who to see if there were any injured any survive as they too were also attacked. witnesses describe to us i'm a cob seen of body parts and blood and blood panic and terror as u.s. drones continued to to haul the overhead now this report comes just as the prime minister of pakistan arrives in washington d.c. to meet with president obama and the timing of the release of these reports was not a coincidence and while we sit here in washington d.c. with the prime minister of pakistan meeting the president of the united states staying in a hotel very close to this building let's not forget the people on the ground who are affected by drones in the situ