mykhailo nepran, first vice-president of the chamber of commerce and industry of ukraine. us. congratulations , mr. mykhailo, veteri espresso. greetings, martha. began to talk because war is money, war is not just money, it is big money, and whoever has the resources for it wins it, so that it is a completely logical continuation of that conversation and that information about which vytin was just talking about, actually, mr. mykhailo, well , he didn't even mention one proverb, so to speak, they didn't live long, so there was nothing to get used to, so what should we expect now in the near... time, well, because, as far as we understand, when they talk about the national income strategy until the 20th, until the 30th year, yes, well, it is about increasing a certain fiscal pressure, but fops are already starting to emit even more optimism, well, come on, colleagues, the fact that the strategy has been developed, there is nothing wrong with this, in principle it is quite logical, quite normal, when people understand ordinary citizens and ordinary people, as they say, and inc