scientist who came to our studio , congratulations my congratulations on direct communication , mykola davydyuk, a political scientist, is also happy to see us greetings good day greetings gentlemen, so there is not much time left until the summit and again, it is definitely so and it is not clear what ukraine will hear there in the end, but mr. oleksiy reznikov wants specific dates or steps to membership a-a someone is talking about what they told us at least to get some guarantees of security while our country moves on the way to, uh , taking a seat at the table with other members of the north atlantic alliance, and mr. valentin , the most realistic option that seems to you , well, the most realistic option that we will have some preliminary security guarantees have been offered, and the term will be offered again and again. well, secondly , it will be articulated that ukraine will be a member of nato . membership in nato is the second point, the third point - it is most likely that some procedure for acquiring this membership will be made public and established, how to call it, the terms dur